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Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - YoungTB - 04-03-2019
Lately there’s been a lot of discussion regarding rule III, E, 4; the rule on un-retiring. It states: “Players have up to 72 hours after their retirement to reconsider. Should they retract their retirement, they must pay a 20% TPE penalty before being re-entered into the sim”. This rule is good in theory, stopping mass-retirements, rage retirements, or anything else regarding retirement that can severely damage teams. However, under this rule, if someone were to post an innocent joke retirement (in the OFFICIAL RETIREMENT section), they’ll be subject to a 20% tpe loss if they want to un-retire. This is a major flaw that needs to be addressed, as this is lumping in the simple shitpost with actual bad behavior such as rage-retiring.
This is my proposal; “Players have up to 12 hours after posting their announcement (in the official retirements page) to un-retire. If they choose to do so, they’ll be fined 5% of their TPE. If a player chooses to retire after the 12 hour grace period, they will then be fined 20% of their TPE.”
This is a better rule than the original for numerous reasons. For one, this seperates the joke from the rage retirement in a crucial way. It’s clear that posting a joke retirement page is breaking a rule; it causes impedence and confusion with the updaters, simmers, and GMs. However, a joke should be no where near the severity of a rage-retirement, mass-retirement, etc. Which is why if they don’t un-retire before the 12 hour grace period, it should be treated as a serious offense, and they should be docked 20% of their TPE. If a joker makes a post, they’re bound to un-retire before 12 hours. A rager however most likely wouldn’t, which is why the 12 hour grace period works.
It’s also important to note the retirement section as a whole. As it is right now, there’s nothing stopping someone from posting a fake retirement in that page. No one’s going to scour the rulebook to see if they can post a joke or not, which is why there should be some form of warning thread that warns people of the cost of un-retiring stickied up there. I’m sure people who want to fake retire as a joke would be warded off to the media section if they knew there was a penalty for fake retirements in the retirement section.
Overall, this is a WIP. However, it’s clear that the rule needs to be changed. I invite you all to discuss as I’d like to hear your thoughts on my proposal and the rule in place already.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - Symmetrik - 04-03-2019
if anything this is backwards. A rage retirement is a mistake that you could regret after calming down. A joke retirement is doing it to intentionally fool people. Intentionally faking a retirement is worse than retiring in a fit of rage.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - Muford - 04-03-2019
It shouldn't be changed.
Most times when people are going to mess around and joke about retirement, they would make a media about it or put an announcement or something to that effect. Putting it into the retirement thread is where it is official.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - ErMurazor - 04-03-2019
(04-02-2019, 10:19 PM)Symmetrik Wrote:if anything this is backwards. A rage retirement is a mistake that you could regret after calming down. A joke retirement is doing it to intentionally fool people. Intentionally faking a retirement is worse than retiring in a fit of rage.
This.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - PDXBaller - 04-03-2019
It's pretty simple...don't joke about retirement. Why is this even a point of discussion? If you want to joke about it, then post it in the Thunderdome or Media section.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - manicmav36 - 04-03-2019
(04-03-2019, 01:19 AM)Symmetrik Wrote:if anything this is backwards. A rage retirement is a mistake that you could regret after calming down. A joke retirement is doing it to intentionally fool people. Intentionally faking a retirement is worse than retiring in a fit of rage.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - Pizza-faith - 04-03-2019
Quote:. As it is right now, there’s nothing stopping someone from posting a fake retirement in that page.
I mean there's at least 1 event that would persuade me not to.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - Duress - 04-03-2019
I think the best solution is to edit the already existing thread: RETIREMENT NOTICE. This is pinned at the top of the retirement page, but does not mention any un-retirement penalties. Just throw in a couple lines about the 20% TPE loss, and if someone does this again it can be quickly pointed out that the penalties are not hard to find.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - SwagSloth - 04-03-2019
(04-03-2019, 12:03 AM)YoungTB Wrote:No one’s going to scour the rulebook to see if they can post a joke or not, which is why there should be some form of warning thread that warns people of the cost of un-retiring stickied up there.So, last April Fool's Day, I also pulled a retirement prank. Prior to doing so, I actually read the rulebook. There's actually a whole section on retirement. It's easy to find. It literally took 2 minutes. Those 2 minutes were enough to convince me that posting joke retirements in the retirement thread was a bad idea. So, I posted media hyping up a retirement instead... and didn't get penalized. I also made a nice chunk of money off the articles I posted.
If someone can't be bothered to put the minimum amount of effort into something, I'm not going to feel bad for them if it backfires.
Fixing The Un-Retirement Rule - timeconsumer - 04-03-2019
NO SIMULATION FUN LEAGUE