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Do Something About Offensive Line - timeconsumer - 10-18-2017
We have 12 players with 200 or more TPE to fill 40 roster slots. 30 players created in the last recruitment drive, only 2 were Oline. We have 1 offensive lineman eligible for the S4 draft. In two seasons we have gained 3 offensive linemen in the entire league when each team averages maybe 2 active players at the position. Meanwhile the Ultimus game saw what....18 sacks? This problem is not getting better.
My suggestions to fix the problem:
1) Make better bots. Ones that scale based upon the TPE of your active Oline. I can go into more detail on some ideas I have had.
2) Buff the starting stats of the archetypes. A lot. A whole lot. 400+ TPE a lot. As it stands right now an offensive lineman maxes at 2000 or more TPE anyway, while most positions max at maybe 1200-1600. Increasing the starting stats will at least mean every team's 2-3 inactives aren't a complete liability.
3) Eliminate the position. Just get rid of offensive line as a playable position. It isn't that fun. The stats we generate really don't mean anything, there is no consistency as to what a sack allowed is or isn't. Pancakes really don't matter in football. Give everyone a free position change to whatever they want and give every team 3000 TPE to divide among 5 bots of whatever archetype they like as they see fit.
Or anything else you can come up with. But as it stands right now to stay the course is delaying the time we have to figure out a solution before this comes crashing down when all the S1 and S2 linemen retire and there is nobody left to replace them.
Do Something About Offensive Line - Bzerkap - 10-18-2017
Reluctantly agree with this. I’ve put a shit ton of time into my lineman and would hate to see it go but if it means more realistic and balanced football I am all for it. I wouldn’t mind my player disappearing for the betterment of the league
Do Something About Offensive Line - cosbornballboy - 10-18-2017
(10-18-2017, 07:10 PM)timeconsumer Wrote:We have 12 players with 200 or more TPE to fill 40 roster slots. 30 players created in the last recruitment drive, only 2 were Oline. We have 1 offensive lineman eligible for the S4 draft. In two seasons we have gained 3 offensive linemen in the entire league when each team averages maybe 2 active players at the position. Meanwhile the Ultimus game saw what....18 sacks? This problem is not getting better.
My suggestions to fix the problem:
1) Make better bots. Ones that scale based upon the TPE of your active Oline. I can go into more detail on some ideas I have had.
2) Buff the starting stats of the archetypes. A lot. A whole lot. 400+ TPE a lot. As it stands right now an offensive lineman maxes at 2000 or more TPE anyway, while most positions max at maybe 1200-1600. Increasing the starting stats will at least mean every team's 2-3 inactives aren't a complete liability.
3) Eliminate the position. Just get rid of offensive line as a playable position. It isn't that fun. The stats we generate really don't mean anything, there is no consistency as to what a sack allowed is or isn't. Pancakes really don't matter in football. Give everyone a free position change to whatever they want and give every team 3000 TPE to divide among 5 bots of whatever archetype they like as they see fit.
Or anything else you can come up with. But as it stands right now to stay the course is delaying the time we have to figure out a solution before this comes crashing down when all the S1 and S2 linemen retire and there is nobody left to replace them.
OH MY GOD YES THANK YOU CAN WE BE REAL NO ONE MADE AN OL CAUSE IT'S FUN THEY DID IT FOR LEAGUE NECESSITY
Do Something About Offensive Line - kckolbe - 10-18-2017
Personally, I really liked the filler bots in DSFL for O line and would like to see something comparable in NSFL. Letting GMs BUILD their own bot o line also helps shape team identity, which is a fun concept.
Do Something About Offensive Line - iamslm22 - 10-18-2017
As an offensive lineman I am 100% behind this. My vote would be number 3. Offensive line is boring. I pour a ton of time into this league, and I get no stats or anything at all.
Do Something About Offensive Line - automatic - 10-18-2017
Just get rid of the position. We don't even need a free position change. We can retire and recreate.
Do Something About Offensive Line - ElMachoNacho - 10-18-2017
Maybe treat better bots as a team purchase? You want a good O-Line? Invest cap space into bots and you'll get bots with better attributes, without there having to be actual linemen. Idk, just spitballing.
Do Something About Offensive Line - HalfEatenOnionBagel - 10-18-2017
(10-18-2017, 10:14 PM)cosbornballboy Wrote:OH MY GOD YES THANK YOU CAN WE BE REAL NO ONE MADE AN OL CAUSE IT'S FUN THEY DID IT FOR LEAGUE NECESSITY
Yeah I originally thought it might be fun, but I definitely only did it because it was the league's biggest need. Two seasons later and it's still just as big a need
Do Something About Offensive Line - iamslm22 - 10-18-2017
(10-18-2017, 10:19 PM)automatic Wrote:Just get rid of the position. We don't even need a free position change. We can retire and recreate.
Dude I would hate to lose all the TPE I put in to just be retired.
Do Something About Offensive Line - cosbornballboy - 10-18-2017
(10-18-2017, 07:16 PM)kckolbe Wrote:Personally, I really liked the filler bots in DSFL for O line and would like to see something comparable in NSFL. Letting GMs BUILD their own bot o line also helps shape team identity, which is a fun concept.
This. Allow GMs to handcraft bot OL that can update by a certain amount of TPE per week or something like that. I like this idea.