(04-12-2020, 05:55 PM)run_CMC Wrote:bruh I'm so confused

this is literally so fucking stupid lmao what the hell

this should consist of two simple yes/no questions...

one:
did the accused specifically, outright tell the dude to retire? (or did he just encourage him to come back to the league)

two:
did the accused specifically tell the dude to pretend to be IA, or to tell other teams not to draft him?

if there is hard, photographic (screenshot-ic?) evidence answering yes to either of those questions, then guess what ya dumb fucks that's tampering

if there is not evidence of a yes to either of those things, then guess what ya dumb fucks that's not tampering

it really ain't that deep

(04-12-2020, 01:53 PM)golden_apricot Wrote:You seriously think a player is going to come back from three seasons of inactivity and not recreate? Like i agree there might have been other things going on, but that is a stretch.

(04-12-2020, 05:01 PM)speculadora Wrote:you can't talk to me like that

(04-12-2020, 05:09 PM)AdamS Wrote:President Run

THINK ABOUT IT.

(04-12-2020, 05:03 PM)AdamS Wrote:No. I dont think that at all.

It simply has precisely 0 bearing on the rule or how its being enforced or why its being enforced this way. Its essentially a non-issue being gussied up to cover what HO is actually claiming. Judging from their actual statement, that barely hidden claim is something along the lines of "We saw all these screenshots and its our opinion that you acted like a huge dick and this is the only actual rule break we can really get you on".

Just as "but he was inactive for 3 seasons so why does it matter" is a huge push to ignore that actual thrust of HO's response. Just like the "technically the wrong person came up with the claim" argument that started in MB's lr a few hours ago and now made it out of the mouth of the NSFL GM of half the people named in this issue.

(04-12-2020, 04:13 PM)golden_apricot Wrote:Ya i get the "you guys were being dicks and doing your best to skirt the rules" part of the punishment and that being the issue they are trying to punish. I just disagree with throwing tampering in with that. that seems like a stretch not having seem those specifc screenshots, because from what i can tell, back in november ish there were talks of him coming back and recreating. I also think that with tampering charges at some point the screenshots should be released (maybe with the appeal ruling?). Its a large punishment and there needs to be some accountability from HO on things that large. I trust them to make the right call but on large charges it should be shown to some extent.

(04-12-2020, 02:13 PM)golden_apricot Wrote:Ya i get the "you guys were being dicks and doing your best to skirt the rules" part of the punishment and that being the issue they are trying to punish. I just disagree with throwing tampering in with that. that seems like a stretch not having seem those specifc screenshots, because from what i can tell, back in november ish there were talks of him coming back and recreating. I also think that with tampering charges at some point the screenshots should be released (maybe with the appeal ruling?). Its a large punishment and there needs to be some accountability from HO on things that large. I trust them to make the right call but on large charges it should be shown to some extent.