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*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - majesiu - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 02:34 PM)kckolbe Wrote:@majesiu Got bored, decided to address your comments team by team.  I left out money for obvious reasons.

NO
Current champions, and most likely to repeat.  Will see some regression, but are the easy favorite in S11 if no one changes teams this offseason.  After that, they will likely start going downhill, as most of the team will be facing regression.  With bovo as a GM, though, I don't expect this team to really decline.  I think he is one of the two best recruiting GMs in the NSFL (the other being Bzerkap).  People want to play for him, so I expect NOLA to be a legit contender through S13.

YKW
As I mentioned, Bzerkap is a very pleasant person to play for, but I just don't see much of a future here.  Kennedy is gone after S10, leaving Tegan Atwell (free agent) and the inactive Glenn McPoyal as the only receiving options.  Pennington is actually just as good a fit for you in terms of draft class, as the two of you will likely retire around the I worry about this team's strategies, as they seem to lose the most winnable games.  Unless they make a big FA splash, I don't see them making the playoffs in S11, though they would with you.

You may not know it, but your list has an interesting pattern, in that your top two teams are run by the GMs with arguably the best personalities.

ARI
With 4 of the top 11 picks in the upcoming S11 draft, ARI is definitely a solid team if you are looking for long term success...but only if you are willing to miss one year of making the playoffs.  I have ARI as going 7-7 next season (again, assuming no FA moves), and being narrowly edged out by NO and OCO.  Starting in S13, I have ARI as the favorite to win it all (though a lot can change by then).  RunCMC is one of the two most competent GMs in this league, so you can trust the improvement to continue, which counts for a lot.

BAL
There is only one manager on par with RunCMC for competence, and that is iamslm22.  So for the top 2 you seem to favor likeability, and next competence.  Baltimore is in an odd spot, as they have drafted quite well, but being near the top for so long has hurt their draft picks.  Blocksdale is in his last season as a top tier QB, and will be barely below average in S11.  Taylor will regress as well, but will likely still be the best fantasy RB in the league thanks to the insane blocking support he has there, so the offense will still be good enough.  With you there, they could compete for an Ultimus as a legit contender in S11, but downhill hard after that.

COL
Brister is gone after this season, and Bly has declared inactive.  They are a fringe playoff team next year, and a playoff lock with you there opposite Bly.  Unfortunately, this team has suffered from piss poor management since at least S8 (wasn't paying much attention prior), so I don't know if I would ever consider them a real contender.

PHI
I like the moves they've made, so I won't write them off, but know that this team is still getting worse, as they lose (I think) seven players to auto-retirement after this season, and a few more the following year.  They don't have the draft picks to replace what they are losing, either, so you would likely be the hero of a 1-13 team should you go there.

SJS
The rebuild they began in S2 appears to be about where it started, and I just can't say I have a lot of faith here...or any.  One playoff appearance in 10 seasons, all with the same GM, pretty much tells you what to expect.

OCO
Expect them to spend one game in the playoffs this year and next, but to make a legit Ultimus run in S12.  With you there, they would likely be the S12 champs before declining.  Won't say anything else, though, since they seem ruled out.

Thanks for the rundown, I don't follow teams as closely and I gather that barring big FA movement/huge trades:
S11 Contenders: NOLA, Hawks
S12 Contenders: NOLA, OCO
S13+ Contenders: ARI, NOLA, PHI

That certainly limits the amount of teams and contracts I'm going to sign if I decide to prioritize the winnings. I agree it was a rather fair assessment of four Top GMs impacting team standings, though I wouldn't dare to call anyone competent or not. I've certainly enjoyed my time in the Marshals with Roly and runCMC leading the way back in the S6, which was big for me in staying in the league despite knowing hardly anything about football.


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - majesiu - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 04:31 PM)RedCydranth Wrote:I'd like to point out that I am not Molarpistols, nor is Speculadora. Holding us accountable for how the prior regime mishandled you doesn't seem fair to me. I simply would like to be able to negotiate with you, and be given a fair shake as a GM. If you ultimately choose another destination, I would be fine with that. I don't think it would be asking too much to move on from that whole debacle and start with a fresh slate. It would be like me judging NOLA because of what Las Vegas Legion did.

I fully realize that we had very limited interactions, so you are not a part of this decision. Speculadora was quite involved being part of the deal, but obviously, it wasn't his job at the time to give courtesy towards people leaving the other way. Asking for a clean slate is fair, though I fell like this rivalry/narrative with my player being betrayed by an old team is quite fun and helps with such menial tasks as Championship Week or Media from time to time. I'm not convinced by LVL comparison, where you personally involved/affected by that team dealings? I'm certainly not judging NOLA for that, so don't hope for that @kckolbe.

Anyway you are free to contact me when FA starts and we can negotiate - I won't show you the door, but it would be simply hiding a clearly stated fact and my feelings now that Otters are on the bottom of my team destinations lists and that it's highly unlikely I ever decide to come back to the Orange County - simply a consequence of a choice team made in the offseason between S7 and S8. Shouldn't hurt you too much anyway, you have plenty good team and a lot of things going your way.


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - Muford - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 07:34 AM)kckolbe Wrote:@majesiu

SJS
The rebuild they began in S2 appears to be about where it started, and I just can't say I have a lot of faith here...or any.  One playoff appearance in 10 seasons, all with the same GM, pretty much tells you what to expect.


Constant rebuild mode? You sir are an idiot, and clearly know nothing of San Jose's history.

Season 4 - 9-5 Record, TIED with OCO for 2nd, lost out on tiebreakers to make the playoffs.

Season 5 - 8-6 Record, TIED WITH Arizona for 2nd, lost out on tiebreakers to make the playoffs.

Season 6 - 11-3 Tied for first on records with Arizona, Lost on a last second play to OCO in the playoffs.

Season 7 - 5-9 TIED with Arizona for 2nd, lost out on tiebreakers to make the playoffs.

San Jose almost made the playoffs, AFTER trading away both Sharpei and Miller in season 7. That was when CK and I decided (then I stepped down as CO) that it was time to trade away the older pieces and start to rebuild. Bayley was then traded the next season.

Yeah, You right, San Jose has been to the playoffs only once. I don't discredit you there, but to say in a state of constant rebuild? You are completely wrong. IIRC @timeconsumer even said himself when he started simming that season 5/6 San Jose was a scary good team.

Go look back at the team's records, Season 4, 9-5 3rd best in the league behind Arizona and Orange County. Season 5, tied with Arizona, Philly, and Baltimore.

So do a little history, before you just spurt out dumb responses like a "constant state of rebuild" etc.


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - timeconsumer - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 04:10 PM)Muford Wrote:Yeah, You right, San Jose has been to the playoffs only once. I don't discredit you there, but to say in a state of constant rebuild? You are completely wrong. IIRC @timeconumer even said himself when he started simming that season 5/6 San Jose was a scary good team.

I was wrong.


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - Muford - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 02:14 PM)timeconsumer Wrote:I was wrong.


Sad too soon


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - Bayley - 09-19-2018

@kckolbe Bovo isn't the GM in NOLA anymore.. Sad


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - run_CMC - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 03:10 PM)Muford Wrote:Season 7 - 5-9 TIED with Arizona for 2nd, lost out on tiebreakers to make the playoffs.
the year 75% of the ASFC went full suck-mode

(That’s not supposed to be a knock on SJS, cause it’d be a knock on NOLA and ARI too, I just think it’s a funny season)


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - Muford - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 02:30 PM)run_CMC Wrote:the year 75% of the ASFC went full suck-mode

(That’s not supposed to be a knock on SJS, cause it’d be a knock on NOLA and ARI too, I just think it’s a funny season)


Yeah, yeah it was. Traded midway to NOLA and that season was just crazy lol


*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - majesiu - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 09:24 PM)BayleyIsland Wrote:@kckolbe Bovo isn't the GM in NOLA anymore.. Sad

Still, too fresh wound to point out

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*Vladimir Fyodorovich Future - kckolbe - 09-19-2018

(09-19-2018, 01:24 PM)BayleyIsland Wrote:@kckolbe Bovo isn't the GM in NOLA anymore.. Sad

Whoops. Forgot.


@Muford
Quote:Constant rebuild mode? You sir are an idiot, and clearly know nothing of San Jose's history.

Season 4 - 9-5 Record, TIED with OCO for 2nd, lost out on tiebreakers to make the playoffs.

Season 5 - 8-6 Record, TIED WITH Arizona for 2nd, lost out on tiebreakers to make the playoffs.

Season 6 - 11-3 Tied for first on records with Arizona, Lost on a last second play to OCO in the playoffs.

Season 7 - 5-9 TIED with Arizona for 2nd, lost out on tiebreakers to make the playoffs.

San Jose almost made the playoffs, AFTER trading away both Sharpei and Miller in season 7. That was when CK and I decided (then I stepped down as CO) that it was time to trade away the older pieces and start to rebuild. Bayley was then traded the next season.

Yeah, You right, San Jose has been to the playoffs only once. I don't discredit you there, but to say in a state of constant rebuild? You are completely wrong. IIRC timeconsumer even said himself when he started simming that season 5/6 San Jose was a scary good team.

Go look back at the team's records, Season 4, 9-5 3rd best in the league behind Arizona and Orange County. Season 5, tied with Arizona, Philly, and Baltimore.

So do a little history, before you just spurt out dumb responses like a "constant state of rebuild" etc.

Okay, so would you rather I have said that the best SJS has ever managed out of a rebuild was a single one and done in the playoffs before collapsing again? I thought I was being generous by counting this as one long rebuild rather than just your third failed attempt to even fucking APPEAR in an Ultimus. SJS is the only team that can't make fun of the Baltimore Hawks (which probably explains the poor morale).

Go back and look at your post. You put "TIED" for second in all caps, like being 2.5 out of 4 is this amazing brag. Also, the random words in caps is MY thing, asshole.

Do me a favor. When did SJS's most recent rebuild begin? Was it this year, with the trading away of Pennington? If so, that means that S8 was a previous rebuild. And I know S2-S3 was a rebuild, since I remember that with the unloading of Cook and Hackett. So should I just count this as San Jose's third rebuild, with the previous two being failures? Or, is this still the second rebuild, meaning that three years in, you are still the worst ASFC team?

I really wasn't trying to be an asshole with my team summaries. I gave, I feel, a pretty accurate assessment of what to expect with every team. San Jose's record with rebuilds is a huge red flag, and, given the same person is in charge, that history should count against them.

To be fair, being an ASFC team is not easy. The NSFC has been a lot more interesting in how teams have gone back and forth, whereas ASFC just changes hands from one powerhouse to another. But you have to have some kind of plan to succeed. I think ARI will be a fringe playoff team in S12, and am confident they will make the playoffs in S13. When is SJS gonna be back? When will they be good? You have a top quality FA here who might be swayed. Make your case.