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The Outlaws Defense is Good - Valtookan - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 04:01 PM)incitehysteria Wrote:At the end of the day one team is 5-1 and the other is 4-2.


You guys do get a lot of pressure but we aren't even at our final form yet! :dbz: ARI


The Outlaws Defense is Good - Kendrick - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 02:01 PM)incitehysteria Wrote:At the end of the day one team is 5-1 and the other is 4-2.
That's true, but so is my point. The job of a defense is not to allow the other team to score.


The Outlaws Defense is Good - ADwyer87 - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 02:57 PM)incitehysteria Wrote:[Image: mJeCxwdHRN2ypovrDSButQ.png]

They've both been fairly good. I know the low sack count really is detrimental to the Outlaws. Your front can't get a lot of pressure on the QB. It is great you have really good DBs though. The only reason your defense has been fairly good is turnovers.

Yards aren't my favorite measurement of Defense because there are a lot of factors involved with that. But the Yeti are the only team in the top 3 in both Sacks (3rd) and Interceptions (2nd).
I think thats a little bit of a short sighted thought. we may have low sack counts, but also have the most tackles for a loss. So maybe we dont get a lot of pressure on the pass game, but we are stuffing the run solidly as well. And when your secondary is without a doubt the best in the league that seems like its not the end of the world, especially when you consider our yards allowed per pass attempt


The Outlaws Defense is Good - ADwyer87 - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 02:57 PM)incitehysteria Wrote:[Image: mJeCxwdHRN2ypovrDSButQ.png]

They've both been fairly good. I know the low sack count really is detrimental to the Outlaws. Your front can't get a lot of pressure on the QB. It is great you have really good DBs though. The only reason your defense has been fairly good is turnovers.

Yards aren't my favorite measurement of Defense because there are a lot of factors involved with that. But the Yeti are the only team in the top 3 in both Sacks (3rd) and Interceptions (2nd).
Also, the ONLY reason we have been FAIRLY good is turnovers? second in tackles, tied for first in TFL, third in fumbles forced and fumbles recovered, first in interceptions, first in passes defenced, tied for first in safety, first in defensive TDs, tied for first in blocked kicks, first in points allowed, second in yards allowed, second in passing yards allowed, second in total yards allowed, second in yards allowed per carry, first in yards allowed per pass, first in touchdowns allowed. I would hardly say that is "only good because of our turnovers." bub


The Outlaws Defense is Good - Jbearly - 06-22-2017

It's only been 6 weeks, I'm confident the otters will take over as best soon enough. We have the best defense yardage wise and close to it points allowed. We'll get the sacks and picks coming though the outlaw d is surprising. 2 of those defensive Tds did come against the worst team in the league


The Outlaws Defense is Good - ADwyer87 - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 09:36 PM)Jbearly Wrote:It's only been 6 weeks, I'm confident the otters will take over as best soon enough. We have the best defense yardage wise and close to it points allowed. We'll get the sacks and picks coming though the outlaw d is surprising. 2 of those defensive Tds did come against the worst team in the league
we really aren't surprising, just everyone underestimated us


The Outlaws Defense is Good - Jbearly - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 10:39 PM)ADwyer87 Wrote:we really aren't surprising, just everyone underestimated us

You surprised me bb but you can knock it off pls


The Outlaws Defense is Good - ADwyer87 - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 09:40 PM)Jbearly Wrote:You surprised me bb but you can knock it off pls
plz no


The Outlaws Defense is Good - Noppadet - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 08:29 PM)ADwyer87 Wrote:Also, the ONLY reason we have been FAIRLY good is turnovers? second in tackles, tied for first in TFL, third in fumbles forced and fumbles recovered, first in interceptions, first in passes defenced, tied for first in safety, first in defensive TDs, tied for first in blocked kicks, first in points allowed, second in yards allowed, second in passing yards allowed, second in total yards allowed, second in yards allowed per carry, first in yards allowed per pass, first in touchdowns allowed. I would hardly say that is "only good because of our turnovers." bub

Tackles aren't really the best judge of a defense. Consistent 3 and outs would have way fewer tackles than long game extending drives, plus if your offense is bad or has ToP eating drives you're on the field more/less.

Stats like this is where it's at to judge a defense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestatsdef2016

edit: not saying y'all aren't good though.


The Outlaws Defense is Good - ADwyer87 - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 10:36 PM)Noppadet Wrote:Tackles aren't really the best judge of a defense. Consistent 3 and outs would have way fewer tackles than long game extending drives, plus if your offense is bad or has ToP eating drives you're on the field more/less.

Stats like this is where it's at to judge a defense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestatsdef2016

edit: not saying y'all aren't good though.
Yeah i get that, I'm just saying we are doing much more than just causing turnovers