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A Good Day - Duilio05 - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 12:10 AM)Rising Equinox Wrote:Then, we get to the r/NFL recruitment day. There's no other way to look at it, whether it was intentional or not, you set up the entire punishment vote for failure from the very start. Literally the only reason I have been given for people voting not to remove Bex from the Commissioner position is that they don't know who would replace her and that they didn't want to give the new rookies a bad impression of the league and the users that run it. What kind of reasoning is that to not remove someone from the highest ranking position in the league, considered the face of the league? :
As the person who organized the date for r/NFL there was no intention behind it other than recruitment. The day was picked for the best intetion of making the Rookie Mentors, Updaters & DSFl simmers lives as easy as possible (250+ new rookies is not easy to deal with). It was not done to alter votes. This has always been our schedule for r/NFL, a Recruitment post every six months as is our agreement with mods there. Right now is that six month point. If this influx of rookies altered any vote, I as one of those voters & Recruitment head would like to hear from those people, because as AdamS and other have said we had qualified people who could be commish instead and honestly besides hiring a few additional people in certain job groups & expansion, the league structure & logistics have always been in place to handle a large influx of people. So the cop out that she's only retained because r/NFL occured is terrible, and the worst reasoning to change or base a vote on.
A Good Day - Bigred1580 - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 01:54 AM)timeconsumer Wrote:Do you ever wonder why overalls have belt loops?
Now that's all I can think about! Thanks Jerk!
A Good Day - ValorX77 - 02-21-2020
That’s a weird way to announce that.
A Good Day - Opera_Phantom - 02-21-2020
I was probably one of the most vocal users during that time and my opinion is well known for those who read threads about the subject.
Some things might have been dealt with differently for sure. Bex knows what she did and said and if she really is sorry about it, good. Not that it solves anything, but at least she saw what she did was wrong and should not have happened.
My problem with her staying as Commish is the lack of trust i feel after knowing what she did. And i honestly don't like that, as of now, i get the impression that everyone that disagrees with the decision to keep her is seen as the "bad guy". This might be a mistake i'm making analyzing all this, and i hope it is, but everyone who wanted her to continue tries to downplay what she said as "venting" or "just some private talks with friends". I have "private talks" with users of this game and never once said a single thing as bad as what she said. She definitely "vents" in a strange aggressive way to say the least.
I obviously can't go into what was discussed between HO and why the decisions were made on punishments. Adam for example said that they felt it was a fair punishment. Well, i don't agree, and while my opinion does not count as others, i still have that choice.
But, credit where it's due. I would like to thank HO publicly for at least putting it to a vote. My team voted to remove her, but if the majority felt otherwise, we just have to accept that and move on, even if in disagreement. i have no problem criticizing stuff, but i can also praise when i feel the right decision was made.
I hope Bex is working on regaining the trust of those who lost it because of all this. And if the choice was made that she should continue, i am all aboard with that, hoping she changed her ways on stuff like this.
A Good Day - TeyonSchavari - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 12:10 AM)Rising Equinox Wrote:The first reason is HO as a whole. It's really at a point where every decision by HO makes me needlessly angry.
Well, I've only been in HO for a season now, so I'm a fairly new face, BR is a new face, and manic is stepping down soon, so HO will be a completely different set of people than who made all these decisions that make you so angry. You do realize that we truly want to help the league right? Thats why we took this position. And no decision we ever make will make everyone happy. Any decisions we made have been toiled over in HO chat and discussed thoroughly so that we make what we feel is the right call. Not all of us even agree with each other all the time. It is not an easy gig.
Quote:Literally the only reason I have been given for people voting not to remove Bex from the Commissioner position is that they don't know who would replace her and that they didn't want to give the new rookies a bad impression of the league and the users that run it.
In the otters locker room (which you are definitely a part of) I put my full reasoning into why I voted for reinstatement. And if you didn't see that, its funny that you wouldn't ask the one teammate in HO you had for his opinion - my PMs are always open. I said that I felt she would be nearly impossible to replace, not because I didn't know who we'd replace her with but because I felt that she is the best person for the job. It was meant a testament to her work ethic, but if it wasn't taken that way I understand and I'm sorry. Not wanting to give rookies a bad impression wasn't even a thought and something I haven't heard anyone else say until now. Also, slm didn't give us the full rundown of the votes, but apparently it was fairly split and a very close vote. That means there were others that also agreed with you, it just didn't go your way. For full transparency sake, here is what I posted in the otters LR on why I voted the way I did:
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A Good Day - flyeaglesfly29 - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 04:09 AM)shadyshoelace Wrote:wtf i love adams now
Right?
A Good Day - RainDelay - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 03:09 AM)shadyshoelace Wrote:wtf i love adams now
Jamal Adams is the best safety in the nfl
A Good Day - Huskies311 - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 12:36 PM)RainDelay Wrote:Jamal Adams is the best safety in the nfl
Wtf I love RainDelay now
A Good Day - DeadlyPlayer - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 02:46 AM)AdamS Wrote:I didnt even want to give you the attention you spent your entire time in this league seeking but you had to try to weaponize rookies.wtf Adam, I want it my way or the highway!!! No but for real, this 100% and I love you more for it.
Nobody ignored your concerns about private messages that were spitefully released to the public (what Dylan actually did) and contained private thoughts on people (what is being to compared to what Dylan did). For anyone who was not here when it happened, that is the context. Private messages by the dozens were brought forward by a disgruntled ex-confidante showing personal thoughts among friends. He created a full discord displaying these private thoughts in screenshots and then organized them by rooms based on who the subject was, then invited a large percentage of the league. The "threats" being championed here are comments from those private discussions.
Private messages are not threats. Private messages do not break the dont be a dick rule. This concern was not ignored in any way. It was discussed openly, repeatedly, and by a great many people. It was addressed over and over again. He wasn't ignored. No one is being held back. He's simply throwing a temper tantrum. Not the first. Hopefully the last.
Nor is it true that there were no other candidates. There were other very qualified candidates who were found SPECIFICALLY to combat this idea that there was no choice. This fact was also publicized in both chats and on my vidcast (I found the candidates personally). Every vote was made knowing there were other quality options which we discussed among GMs and HO members during the season.
My vote for example, was to remove her. Not for any of this ridiculous asinine nonsense that doesn't tell you why there was a vote to begin with. I voted to remove her because she broke an important rule and I personally would have stepped down in her shoes if faced with that kind of action on my part. She chose not to do that. A majority of GMs and HO members felt that the punishment she already received was enough and voted to retain her as Commissioner. The vote was not unfair and the discussion lasted the entire season among teams before the vote was cast. The voting was done before the recruitment drive and the results were announced to us early in the day.
Essentially almost nothing in this post is even attempting to be honest, accurate, or useful. It's a hitjob based on bullshit, purposely lacking context and facts so as to paint a dishonest picture of how things happened. It doesn't even actually attempt to mention what the vote was actually about. And I'm done with it. I'm done with this lying to pretend that a private message equals a threat of some kind that is actionabey against rules. I'm done with people defending someone who screenshotted dozens of personal private conversations and publicized them specifically to hurt the league and several members in it. I'm just done. We all made our decision and it's time to move forward. Again..as someone who not only voted to remove her, but personally made sure the entire "there's nobody else" argument was inaccurate, and made sure other GMs and HO members knew I was voting that way ahead of time, why I was, what I did, and what my feelings were on the subject. If the league was going to keep her it was going to be for the right reasons. Nobody put a gun to 14 other people's heads and told them to keep her as Commissioner. Nobody was tricked, fooled, deceived, or bamboozled.
A selfish little brat didn't get his way and has resorted to blatant lying.
A Good Day - RainDelay - 02-21-2020
(02-21-2020, 02:47 PM)Huskies311 Wrote:Wtf I love RainDelay now
J E T S Jets Jets Jets!
Now I’m sad we haven’t interacted yet!