(06-21-2020, 10:33 PM)timeconsumer Wrote:Yeah in the past we've found other weird "breakpoints" as well. One of them was 87 vs 88 arm iirc, I'd have to double check with spec on that. Another one was 98 vs 100 arm where 98 arm is better (assuming 90 int and acc as well). I think a lot has to do with the ratio between certain attributes.

(06-21-2020, 11:11 PM)The_Kidd Wrote:It would be interesting to see if the other archetypes have a similar speed exploit with a different rating(likely wont be the same rushing totals, but is there a scaled down ratio of the same exploit?). And how many playbooks can effectively take advantage of the speed exploit?

Wonder if this is the only position that experiences this?

(06-22-2020, 03:14 AM)Mooty99 Wrote:This is amazing, I know one of the big things that people want to know is if there are hidden attributes in the code that could explain the success of failure of different players at the same level

(06-22-2020, 10:08 AM)retrospace111 Wrote:does this mean agility is actually important for CBs

(06-22-2020, 03:13 PM)Maglubiyet Wrote:Almost every position undergoes some type of modification to Speed when a play goes live, and the reasons vary greatly from position to position. Almost universally, the higher boosts to Speed are give to players that have a lower base Speed stat. Conversely, if a player is having a great day statistically, they will start to receive penalties to Speed. I suspect this was likely done to prevent exploits and to make the game more realistic (e.g. no WRs having 200+ yard games on a regular basis).


I have found that there is a hidden attribute called 'Energy', which is related to but not identical to Endurance. However, I have not yet identified any specific effect that it has on gameplay--so far, it seems to be related more to the 'franchise mode' of the sim in regards to player negotiations and management.

(06-23-2020, 12:33 AM)The_Kidd Wrote:This almost makes me not want to fully max any attributes until I can start properly working with the game myself.

(06-22-2020, 06:13 PM)Maglubiyet Wrote:Absolutely correct with the mobile QB vs 'pocket' QB and the Speed breakpoints. I'll wait for infinite's post to not spoil anything, but the conventionally-held strategy is correct. It's actually worse for a 'pocket' QB to improve Speed past 79 (technically it becomes better again at 93+ Speed, but our self-imposed archetypes do not allow for such a player to exist). The only breakpoint I see specific to Arm is at 90, where WRs can get a slight boost. However, there is still much work to be done, so I wouldn't rule out anything.

(06-22-2020, 06:13 PM)Maglubiyet Wrote:Almost every position undergoes some type of modification to Speed when a play goes live, and the reasons vary greatly from position to position. Almost universally, the higher boosts to Speed are given to players that have a lower base Speed stat. Conversely, if a player is having a great day statistically, they will start to receive penalties to Speed. I suspect this was likely done to prevent exploits and to make the game more realistic (e.g. no WRs having 200+ yard games on a regular basis).

(06-22-2020, 06:13 PM)Maglubiyet Wrote:I have found that there is a hidden attribute called 'Energy', which is related to but not identical to Endurance. However, I have not yet identified any specific effect that it has on gameplay--so far, it seems to be related more to the 'franchise mode' of the sim in regards to player negotiations and management.