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*Comparing Defensive Players Across Positions - Lightnoir - 07-17-2020

yay I'm relevant


*Comparing Defensive Players Across Positions - J0EB - 07-17-2020

(07-16-2020, 11:46 PM)Lightnoir Wrote:yay I'm relevant

you'll always be relevant to me <3


*Comparing Defensive Players Across Positions - 37thchamber - 07-17-2020

(07-16-2020, 03:27 PM)speculadora Wrote:I'd also love to see these somehow normalized for the number of plays run against a team's defense
probably a more important adjustment than the weighting of each action tbh

same problem you get looking at volume stats in any sport. volume alone doesn't necessarily represent a player's value/impact, because it's heavily dependant on other factors like team playing style, and supporting cast. you can mitigate those two things somewhat by normalising against number of plays faced, and then within each defensive unit, look at the proportion of plays made or something like that.

probably too complicated to really work it all out though. like how defensive backs are hard to appraise accurately due to the limitations in the available stats.

still, this is a nice starting point and an interesting way to attempt to assign tangible value to things that a lot of people likely overlook. even if it primarily works for the front seven, it would be a strong addition to the league's collective analytical tools imo


*Comparing Defensive Players Across Positions - speculadora - 07-17-2020

(07-17-2020, 11:18 AM)37thchamber Wrote:probably a more important adjustment than the weighting of each action tbh

same problem you get looking at volume stats in any sport. volume alone doesn't necessarily represent a player's value/impact, because it's heavily dependant on other factors like team playing style, and supporting cast. you can mitigate those two things somewhat by normalising against number of plays faced, and then within each defensive unit, look at the proportion of plays made or something like that.

probably too complicated to really work it all out though. like how defensive backs are hard to appraise accurately due to the limitations in the available stats.

still, this is a nice starting point and an interesting way to attempt to assign tangible value to things that a lot of people likely overlook. even if it primarily works for the front seven, it would be a strong addition to the league's collective analytical tools imo

it may not be as difficult as it would seem, but I'm not 100% on that. and it'd still require some dedicated effort to make work. but all of the export files the sim generates are designed, I believe, to work with MS Access. and I'm fairly certain those files have way more detailed individual stats (nothing so specific as # of times thrown at for DBs, unfortunately), but likely also more detailed team stats.


*Comparing Defensive Players Across Positions - Yeenoghu - 07-17-2020

(07-17-2020, 10:34 AM)speculadora Wrote:it may not be as difficult as it would seem, but I'm not 100% on that. and it'd still require some dedicated effort to make work. but all of the export files the sim generates are designed, I believe, to work with MS Access. and I'm fairly certain those files have way more detailed individual stats (nothing so specific as # of times thrown at for DBs, unfortunately), but likely also more detailed team stats.
The stats that can be exported for players are below. Most of them are already in the index, but there are some interesting ones (metrics around first down conversions for example) that I didn't know were catalogued, and there are others still that I can't guess a meaning for off the top of my head (PointsFor and PointsAgainst never have any value but 0).

Plays
RushAtt
Catches
PassAtt
PassCmp
PassInt
PassYds
PassYdsAgainst
TotalYdsAgainst
TotalYds
RushYdsAgainst
PassTD
PassRating
PassingAttemptsPerGame
PassingYardsPerAttempt
PassingYardsPerCompletion
SackPct
PassingYdsPerGame
RushYds
RecYds
RushTD
RecTD
RunLong
PassLong
RecLong
PuntLong
KRLong
PRLong
FGLong
Int
IntReturnYds
Fumbles
FumblesLost
FumReturnYds
Pancakes
MissedTackles
DroppedPasses
PassesDefensed
SacksAllowed
WasSacked
Tackles
TFL
Sacks
Safeties
ForcedFumbles
FumblesRecovered
DefensiveTD
BlockedFG
BlockedPAT
BlockedPunt
Penalties
PenaltyYds
Punts
PuntYds
PuntsInside20
PuntReturns
PuntReturnYds
PuntReturnTD
KickoffReturns
KickoffReturnYds
KickoffReturnTD
FGA_U20
FGA_2029
FGA_3039
FGA_4049
FGA_50
FGM_U20
FGM_2029
FGM_3039
FGM_4049
FGM_50
FGA
FGM
XPA
XPM
POG
RushAvg
PassAvg
PassPct
RecAvg
FGPct
XPPct
PuntAvg
PuntReturnAvg
KickReturnAvg
RushingAttPerGame
RushingYdsPerGame
RushFDPct
CatchesPerGame
ReceivingYdsPerGame
RecFDPct
KickingPoints
Points
PointsFor
PointsAgainst
Rush20
Rush40
RushFD
Pass20
Pass40
PassFD
Rec20
Rec40
RecFD