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RE: *How Players are Paid - hotdog - 03-30-2021
@Z-Whiz good luck ever trying to get more than minimum from me in SHL!
RE: *How Players are Paid - Z-Whiz - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 12:44 PM)hotdog Wrote: @Z-Whiz good luck ever trying to get more than minimum from me in SHL!
I'd like to report this. It's one thing for me to bully hotdog into taking the minimum here, but it's completely different for him to bully me into taking the minimum there...
RE: How Players are Paid - Ephenssta - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 12:30 PM)Jackets28 Wrote:(03-30-2021, 10:06 AM)Ephenssta Wrote:(03-29-2021, 05:26 PM)Jackets28 Wrote: Just as a note, Baltimore's overpayed rookies were a result from players leaving in FA the season prior to the rookies being called up where the new sim required more in some spaces than the old sim. Not trying to excuse my mismanagement, but that we weren't outright trying to overpay rookies at all which seems to be the rumor based on how it's explained here.
I'm not sure I totally understand what you mean here. I'm really not sure how players leaving in FA the season prior forced you to sign all your rookies to $4m contracts? As far as I'm aware that's simply not a thing but I could be wrong.
We has them on $4mil DSFL contracts which is strictly for letting players remain call downs. When we had players jump into FA that we didn’t expect or that things didn’t pan out with another deal, we had to call up those DSFL players. Can’t restructure that $4mil DSFL contract so instead you end up paying $4mil for a player out of pocket instead of the DSFL covering it.
I'm pretty sure y'all gravely misunderstood something, then. Plenty of other teams sign rookies to 1-2 mil contracts after the draft and those players are still paid $4m/season when sent down...The only way a send down doesn't get paid the $4m in the DSFL is if they are called up midseason, in which case they get the salary they are under contract for from their ISFL team. Baltimore could have signed those rookies to ISFL minimum and avoided some of the headache.
RE: How Players are Paid - Pat - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 12:30 PM)Jackets28 Wrote:(03-30-2021, 10:06 AM)Ephenssta Wrote:(03-29-2021, 05:26 PM)Jackets28 Wrote: Just as a note, Baltimore's overpayed rookies were a result from players leaving in FA the season prior to the rookies being called up where the new sim required more in some spaces than the old sim. Not trying to excuse my mismanagement, but that we weren't outright trying to overpay rookies at all which seems to be the rumor based on how it's explained here.
I'm not sure I totally understand what you mean here. I'm really not sure how players leaving in FA the season prior forced you to sign all your rookies to $4m contracts? As far as I'm aware that's simply not a thing but I could be wrong.
We has them on $4mil DSFL contracts which is strictly for letting players remain call downs. When we had players jump into FA that we didn’t expect or that things didn’t pan out with another deal, we had to call up those DSFL players. Can’t restructure that $4mil DSFL contract so instead you end up paying $4mil for a player out of pocket instead of the DSFL covering it.
So either you were misinformed or misunderstood how these contracted work.
A player is automatically paid either $4 million per season if they spend a season in the DSFL as a send down, regardless of what is listed on their actual contract post (there's more nuance to it than that but at its simplest terms that's how it works). If you go and look at any rookie deal from the past few seasons, you will see it written like this:
S28 - $1,000,000*
*Contract is $4,000,000 if sent down
Whoever taught you that you have to list rookie contracts at $4,000,000 salary if you're sending them to the DSFL taught you wrong.
RE: How Players are Paid - Starboy - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 04:10 PM)Punter715 Wrote:(03-30-2021, 12:30 PM)Jackets28 Wrote:(03-30-2021, 10:06 AM)Ephenssta Wrote:(03-29-2021, 05:26 PM)Jackets28 Wrote: Just as a note, Baltimore's overpayed rookies were a result from players leaving in FA the season prior to the rookies being called up where the new sim required more in some spaces than the old sim. Not trying to excuse my mismanagement, but that we weren't outright trying to overpay rookies at all which seems to be the rumor based on how it's explained here.
I'm not sure I totally understand what you mean here. I'm really not sure how players leaving in FA the season prior forced you to sign all your rookies to $4m contracts? As far as I'm aware that's simply not a thing but I could be wrong.
We has them on $4mil DSFL contracts which is strictly for letting players remain call downs. When we had players jump into FA that we didn’t expect or that things didn’t pan out with another deal, we had to call up those DSFL players. Can’t restructure that $4mil DSFL contract so instead you end up paying $4mil for a player out of pocket instead of the DSFL covering it.
So either you were misinformed or misunderstood how these contracted work.
A player is automatically paid either $4 million per season if they spend a season in the DSFL as a send down, regardless of what is listed on their actual contract post (there's more nuance to it than that but at its simplest terms that's how it works). If you go and look at any rookie deal from the past few seasons, you will see it written like this:
S28 - $1,000,000*
*Contract is $4,000,000 if sent down
Whoever taught you that you have to list rookie contracts at $4,000,000 salary if you're sending them to the DSFL taught you wrong.
Well nobody told us over at Baltimore...guess everyone will add that we were dumb too
RE: How Players are Paid - Pat - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 04:19 PM)Jackets28 Wrote: Well nobody told us over at Baltimore...guess everyone will add that we were dumb too
I mean I said you were either taught wrong or simply misinformed. I can't imagine you guys would have just come to that understanding of rookie contracts without someone telling you that's how it works. So, no need to get defensive.
RE: How Players are Paid - Starboy - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 04:29 PM)Punter715 Wrote:(03-30-2021, 04:19 PM)Jackets28 Wrote: Well nobody told us over at Baltimore...guess everyone will add that we were dumb too
I mean I said you were either taught wrong or simply misinformed. I can't imagine you guys would have just come to that understanding of rookie contracts without someone telling you that's how it works. So, no need to get defensive.
Didn’t mean for that to come off as defensive. Just messing around
RE: How Players are Paid - slothfacekilla - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 04:29 PM)Punter715 Wrote:(03-30-2021, 04:19 PM)Jackets28 Wrote: Well nobody told us over at Baltimore...guess everyone will add that we were dumb too
I mean I said you were either taught wrong or simply misinformed. I can't imagine you guys would have just come to that understanding of rookie contracts without someone telling you that's how it works. So, no need to get defensive.
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