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RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - zeagle1 - 10-02-2021
At what point do we think about replacing the league boomers on the committee with some younger blood that knows how to vote properly? Limiting the members to those who have been around since S18 completely removes the two biggest draft classes in league history.
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - infinitempg - 10-02-2021
(10-02-2021, 11:12 AM)zeagle1 Wrote: At what point do we think about replacing the league boomers on the committee with some younger blood that knows how to vote properly?
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthread.php?tid=35317
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - unconfident - 10-02-2021
also im mistaken, he actually gained a vote. my apologies. still should have made it in of course
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - slate - 10-02-2021
(10-02-2021, 11:12 AM)infinitempg Wrote:(10-02-2021, 11:07 AM)slate Wrote: Not only did Frost not get inducted but he somehow got removed from the ballot entirely? HOF committee sux lmap.
Frostbite was removed from the ballot because he had his 3 seasons on. He can always be re-nominated.
So I understand the technicality of it but it seems like the intersection of a few weird things going on with GMs (and maybe users) specifically. Frost was nominated twice while he was GM before he had completed his resume (after all the 2nd Ultimus win and GMotY close call was only this past offseason), and so votes against him on those ballots could be for reasons such as not wanting to vote for an active GM or not thinking his resume was good enough at the time. But somehow having people nominate him while he was actively a GM counts against him by getting him removed from the ballot faster, while there are probably active GMs who haven't been nominated yet but will have consideration for the full 3 seasons of post-career nominations once they step down.
I understand it's not a huge deal because he will probably be renominated anyway but I feel like this should be an opportunity for reconsideration of how the GM ballot works.
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - zeagle1 - 10-02-2021
(10-02-2021, 11:13 AM)infinitempg Wrote:You responded before I could edit my post smh(10-02-2021, 11:12 AM)zeagle1 Wrote: At what point do we think about replacing the league boomers on the committee with some younger blood that knows how to vote properly?
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthread.php?tid=35317
"You must have been a user since at least S18"
Literally the first piece of criteria.
While I understand having some restriction in place, requiring two irl years of time on the site is incredibly harsh and removes the two largest classes in league history from consideration. A s18 user could be almost done with their second player if they didn't want to fight regression.
IMO it should be 6 seasons of experience in the league (roughly an irl year), and even then it is still an incredibly arbitrary and harsh requirement that does nothing but stifle the applicant pool.
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - infinitempg - 10-02-2021
(10-02-2021, 11:20 AM)slate Wrote:(10-02-2021, 11:12 AM)infinitempg Wrote:(10-02-2021, 11:07 AM)slate Wrote: Not only did Frost not get inducted but he somehow got removed from the ballot entirely? HOF committee sux lmap.
Frostbite was removed from the ballot because he had his 3 seasons on. He can always be re-nominated.
So I understand the technicality of it but it seems like the intersection of a few weird things going on with GMs (and maybe users) specifically. Frost was nominated twice while he was GM before he had completed his resume (after all the 2nd Ultimus win and GMotY close call was only this past offseason), and so votes against him on those ballots could be for reasons such as not wanting to vote for an active GM or not thinking his resume was good enough at the time. But somehow having people nominate him while he was actively a GM counts against him by getting him removed from the ballot faster, while there are probably active GMs who haven't been nominated yet but will have consideration for the full 3 seasons of post-career nominations once they step down.
I understand it's not a huge deal because he will probably be renominated anyway but I feel like this should be an opportunity for reconsideration of how the GM ballot works.
There were no rules against active GMs being eligible for the ballot, so he was put on. I don't tell the committee how to interpret whether that should qualify him or not. Regardless, he had a season this season where he was retired from GMing.
He wasn't removed from the ballot faster. All of the GMs here were nominated together and all are removed together. Active or inactive, you only get 3 seasons.
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - slate - 10-02-2021
(10-02-2021, 11:23 AM)infinitempg Wrote: He wasn't removed from the ballot faster. All of the GMs here were nominated together and all are removed together. Active or inactive, you only get 3 seasons.
My point is that "Frost with his full GM career behind him" got removed faster than a hypothetical contemporaneous GM who hasn't yet been nominated for any GM HOF ballots while being active. Frostbite the user had 3 ballots but that's different from Frostbite the historical GM.
Like imagine if he had stepped down one season later and he got removed from the ballot without even finishing his GM career. The rules as they stand now are pretty wack.
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - goodfortunecoffee - 10-02-2021
Congrats to all! First S18er in hell yeah
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - mithrandir - 10-02-2021
Congratulations to Gump and Bode! They came to NOLA together, left NOLA together, and get to join the HOF together. A fitting end to their amazing careers!
RE: S31 ISFL Hall of Fame Class - BenDover - 10-02-2021
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