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*From High to Low - kckolbe - 08-24-2017

(08-24-2017, 07:53 AM)HENDRIX Wrote:Sanderson has slightly better hands than Gibson did. Odds are he would have made every catch Gibson did.
Let's do a comparison

Gibson/Sanderson
Strength: 60/52
Agility: 55/45
Intelligence: 60/55
Speed: 70/56
Hands: 70/71
Pass Block: 50/30
Run Block: 55/30

So yes, Sanderson would have caught every pass, but would he have been open to catch all of them? No

Would he have gotten as many extra yards? No

Would he have helped protect Kyubee as well? No

Would he have blocked for Farlane as well? Hell no

These two players were not comparable. He did make a difference.


*From High to Low - manicmav36 - 08-24-2017

(08-24-2017, 10:01 AM)kckolbe Wrote:Let's do a comparison

Gibson/Sanderson
Strength:    60/52
Agility:        55/45
Intelligence: 60/55
Speed:        70/56
Hands:        70/71
Pass Block:  50/30
Run Block:    55/30

So yes, Sanderson would have caught every pass, but would he have been open to catch all of them?  No

Would he have gotten as many extra yards? No

Would he have helped protect Kyubee as well? No

Would he have blocked for Farlane as well?  Hell no

These two players were not comparable.  He did make a difference.

Someone unrealted to the Hawks cleared a guy to play that shouldn't have been. The Hawks were innocent in this one. The fact of the matter is, you could throw these hypothetical situations out all day, but that's all they are, hypothetical. It's unfortunate that it happened, and I'm sure the rest of my teammates feel the same way, as no matter what we do someone will always be screaming "GIBSON!" in the background.



*From High to Low - Archon - 08-24-2017

(08-24-2017, 06:53 AM)HENDRIX Wrote:Sanderson has slightly better hands than Gibson did. Odds are he would have made every catch Gibson did.


(08-24-2017, 07:01 AM)kckolbe Wrote:Let's do a comparison

Gibson/Sanderson
Strength:    60/52
Agility:        55/45
Intelligence: 60/55
Speed:        70/56
Hands:        70/71
Pass Block:  50/30
Run Block:    55/30

Holy shit it's a gift to be able to cherrypick stats like that.


*From High to Low - kckolbe - 08-24-2017

(08-24-2017, 08:08 AM)manicmav36 Wrote:Someone unrealted to the Hawks cleared a guy to play that shouldn't have been. The Hawks were innocent in this one. The fact of the matter is, you could throw these hypothetical situations out all day, but that's all they are, hypothetical. It's unfortunate that it happened, and I'm sure the rest of my teammates feel the same way, as no matter what we do someone will always be screaming "GIBSON!" in the background.

I actually agree. Nothing suggests the Hawks FO did this intentionally or were even aware. My article BARELY mentioned it. However, by TPE and by point differential, the Hawks were the third best team in the conference. The only dispute to that claim was by Blocksdale, who said that the last two games didn't matter, which was a poor argument even if 11 of the 12 games that did matter featured an illegally boosted player.

Even if you take away the scandal, both the Yeti and the Wraiths end the season in a worse spot than a worse team, and this is the second season in a row that a team with NEGATIVE point differential has won the conference.


*From High to Low - HENDRIX - 08-24-2017

(08-24-2017, 10:01 AM)kckolbe Wrote:Let's do a comparison

Gibson/Sanderson
Strength:     60/52
Agility:         55/45
Intelligence: 60/55
Speed:         70/56
Hands:         70/71
Pass Block:   50/30
Run Block:    55/30

So yes, Sanderson would have caught every pass, but would he have been open to catch all of them?  No

Would he have gotten as many extra yards? No

Would he have helped protect Kyubee as well? No

Would he have blocked for Farlane as well?  Hell no

These two players were not comparable.  He did make a difference.
None of Gibson's catches came on a drive we eventually scored on.

Look at our 3 scoring drives and tell me where the gap between Sanderson and Gibson would have made a difference.

7:20 3rd and 10 ARI - 2 Rush by Mackworthy, R. for 1 yds. Tackle by Boom, J.. FUMBLE recovered by Hendrix, K. at the ARI - 3 yard line and returned for 0 yards.
7:12 1st and Goal ARI - 3 Kyubee, S. SACKED by Luke Luechly - LB for -6 yds.
6:53 2nd and Goal ARI - 9 Rush by Farlane, D. for 1 yds. Tackle by Luechly, L..
6:34 3rd and Goal ARI - 8 Rush by Farlane, D. for 7 yds. Tackle by Ernston, H..
6:06 4th and Goal ARI - 1 18 yard FG by Turkleton, T. is good.

4:32 3rd and 33 ARI - 10 Pass by Bronko, K., to Jackson, M.. INTERCEPTION by Turner, D. at the ARI - 15 yard line and returned for 2 yards.
4:08 1st and 10 ARI - 13 Rush by Farlane, D. for 0 yds. Tackle by Dam, D..
3:56 2nd and 10 ARI - 13 Rush by Farlane, D. for 3 yds. Tackle by Ernston, H..
3:23 3rd and 7 ARI - 10 Rush by Farlane, D. for 9 yds. Tackle by Davis, A..
2:45 1st and Goal ARI - 1 Pass by Kyubee, S., complete to Robinson, M. for 1 yds.
2:24 TOUCHDOWN! (Turkleton kick good)

1:45 4th and 12 BAL - 18 Punt by Ronaldo, C. is BLOCKED BY Hendrix, K.. No return.
1:40 1st and 10 ARI - 18 Rush by Farlane, D. for a short gain. Tackle by Asipi, A..
1:40 2nd and 10 ARI - 18 Baltimore Hawks : Timeout
1:34 2nd and 10 ARI - 18 Rush by Farlane, D. for a short gain. Tackle by Lee, J..
1:34 3rd and 10 ARI - 18 Baltimore Hawks : Timeout
1:21 3rd and 10 ARI - 18 Rush by Farlane, D. for a short gain. Tackle by Tuck, J..
1:21 4th and 10 ARI - 18 Baltimore Hawks : Timeout
1:13 4th and 10 ARI - 18 35 yard FG by Turkleton, T. is good.


Our 3 and only 3 scoring drives came from 2 TOs and a blocked punt deep in Zona territory. Gibson was irrelevant on our scoring drives.

http://www.nsfl.wtgbear.com/season02/Logs/90.html


*From High to Low - Archon - 08-24-2017

Gibson/Sanderson receiving

Games 11/14
Yards 455/192
TDs 5/0

No impact!

http://www.nsfl.wtgbear.com/season02/LeagueRushingStats.html


*From High to Low - kckolbe - 08-24-2017

First off, Gibson's yards did impact field position. Second, Gibson has 25 more run blocking (plus higher in every other stat relevant to blocking) and all the Hawks did is run on those drives.


*From High to Low - loco - 08-24-2017

(08-24-2017, 05:50 AM)iamslm22 Wrote:Man people are shitting on us hard. We were one of two teams to win all our home games, and we beat division rival Philly on the road. We earned our spot. Our PD was insanely high until we clinched, these last two games were meaningless.
Wait. So entry to the playoffs should be made on home record (which is easier than road) and beating expansion teams?


*From High to Low - manicmav36 - 08-24-2017

(08-24-2017, 10:22 AM)Archon Wrote:Gibson/Sanderson receiving

Games 11/14
Yards 455/192
TDs 5/0

No impact!

http://www.nsfl.wtgbear.com/season02/LeagueRushingStats.html

I wondered when you would make an appearance.


*From High to Low - Bzerkap - 08-24-2017

I subscribed to this thread. The meat is juicy