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*Top Target - ErMurazor - 08-25-2017

(08-25-2017, 09:07 PM)kckolbe Wrote:No rush, may as well get all the weeks in there to be fair.  Hell, do it as your own article and get paid.

Drops are in the advanced stats section in the simmer's area. You can see catches and drops in that data.


*Top Target - Admin - 08-25-2017

Wow this is awesome work! Well done man, really impressive!


*Top Target - kckolbe - 08-25-2017

(08-25-2017, 09:04 PM)To12143 Wrote:The problem I have with using it as a tiebreaker is that it devalues anyone who was not a part of the special teams, since some teams use rbs, dbs, or other receivers for their returner.

Understandable, but if two receivers are roughly equal, and one of them is spending a lot more energy doing something else, why shouldn't that count?


*Top Target - Oles - 08-25-2017

(08-25-2017, 11:45 PM)kckolbe Wrote:Understandable, but if two receivers are roughly equal, and one of them is spending a lot more energy doing something else, why shouldn't that count?

It shouldn't count because they're different aspects of the game. If you were saying who should make the pro bowl, and pick the guy who returns punts over the guy who doesn't, and they have roughly the same stats I can understand that. But you're comparing WRs, and not every WR is a returner, whether it's by choice of him, choice of the GM, or just coming into a situation where they already had a returner and don't need another one.


*Top Target - Kendrick - 08-26-2017

(08-25-2017, 09:45 PM)kckolbe Wrote:Understandable, but if two receivers are roughly equal, and one of them is spending a lot more energy doing something else, why shouldn't that count?
Both are independent. Just because you are PR or KR, doesn't make you any less of a WR compared to other WR's.

If a QB lined up as a KR, would he be a better QB because he return kicks?


*Top Target - kckolbe - 08-26-2017

(08-25-2017, 10:12 PM)Kendrick Wrote:Both are independent. Just because you are PR or KR, doesn't make you any less of a WR compared to other WR's.

If a QB lined up as a KR, would he be a better QB because he return kicks?

If a player misses snaps at WR because he is tired from returning kicks, does that make him less of a WR?


*Top Target - adam2552 - 08-26-2017

(08-26-2017, 01:14 AM)kckolbe Wrote:If a player misses snaps at WR because he is tired from returning kicks, does that make him less of a WR?

By your logic Tyreek Hill and Tyler Lockett are the best WR in the NFL. I'd argue OBJ, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown etc are all ahead of them though.


*Top Target - Sweetwater - 08-26-2017

Different from everyone else, I'd contend that TDs are too much of a fluke stat to use in the comparison. See Calvin Johnson 1012. Almost 2000 yards, but only 5 TDs.

Who would you rather have at receiver, someone who will get the ball to the 1 yard line on every catch, but never score? Or someone who is guaranteed to get a 3 yard reception on every catch?

The second will score every time you're at the 3 or less yard line, and would get lots of TD due to that fact, but I'd take the first one, as it gives my team the best chance to score.


*Top Target - kckolbe - 08-26-2017

(08-25-2017, 10:26 PM)adam2552 Wrote:By your logic Tyreek Hill and Tyler Lockett are the best WR in the NFL.  I'd argue OBJ, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown etc are all ahead of them though.

No it wouldn't, as I said I only used it as a tiebreaker. At no point did I introduce someone who wasn't already in contention as a receiver.


*Top Target - Kendrick - 08-26-2017

(08-25-2017, 10:14 PM)kckolbe Wrote:If a player misses snaps at WR because he is tired from returning kicks, does that make him less of a WR?
If a WR is not on the PR or KR, is that his fault?