(11-20-2017, 10:03 AM)timeconsumer Wrote:I would argue they got the OL price/TPE right. Instead what we're seeing now is how the strength of DL over the course of several nerfs was really based around balancing them against 50 TPE opponents. Perhaps it's time to bring DL back up to where we started.

(11-20-2017, 08:55 AM)bovovovo Wrote:+1 on this

It's very good that DL performance has been brought down to Earth, but I'm thinking their stats will only go down even more when some teams start using the higher tier bots

(11-20-2017, 01:37 PM)ErMurazor Wrote:DL aren't really going to get better at this point. If we go forward with another tier of OL bots stats are going to take a huge drop.

(11-20-2017, 12:37 PM)ErMurazor Wrote:DL aren't really going to get better at this point. If we go forward with another tier of OL bots stats are going to take a huge drop.

(11-20-2017, 01:50 PM)7hawk77 Wrote:Yeah for sure. So basically there are two schools of thought.

Limit the upside for the OL where they basically get capped where they currently are (since they are fending off the DL now that we've reached our meaningful stat caps).

Or we can allow the next tier of OL and GM's budget accordingly so they can get better tier bots, but in the process also buff defensive lineman to perform a bit better. The end result would be more varied teams and OL. This would cause DL against teams with the current bot set up to perform better, and then perform worse against teams that used their budget for more expensive OL.


Currently I favor the second one and any buffs aren't going to be outrageous or game breaking. But I think that it opens up more meaningful decision for the GM's and players.
All of the previous DL nerfs had to do with OL being garbage, and now that it isn't we can probably fix and revert some of those nerfs.

Either way this is definitely something that I have on my mind as well as other positions.

So far we are definitely going to look in to CB/QB and DL. If anyone has well thought out balance suggestions, please feel free to post in suggestion area or PM me.

(11-20-2017, 01:48 PM)TheWoZy Wrote:I think LB are too good.

(11-20-2017, 11:10 AM)kckolbe Wrote:If EVERY TEAM only buys the MOST EXPENSIVE version, then clearly the price was too low.  Your other point is valid, though.

(11-20-2017, 05:10 PM)ItsJustBarry Wrote:Every team bought the best available because they all have bags of excess money just sitting around.  If you fix the vet minimum contracts, teams would have less free money and actual strategic financial decisions would need to be made.

(11-20-2017, 04:15 PM)timeconsumer Wrote:They intentionally raised the cap enough so every team could buy the tier 2s. Tier 2 is meant to be a baseline OL for the league. The whole idea behind bot OL was to actually start fielding good offensive lines. If someone wants to spend more on crazy good FAs and buy a bunch of crappy bots they can do that too. Or if they want to buy the super expensive OL next season at $7m a pop that's also an option, but you'll have no money for anything else.