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Carryover TPE - Roly - 04-17-2018
Yeah, like I first mentioned, high prices, limited amount of TPE. Enough that you'd want bigger contracts for it, but not enough that its ridiculous.
Even better if you could only spend salary $$ on it, but with prior discussions we've had it sounds like those systems of salary money being only good for one thing is a no go.
So I'd say around $2 mill per TPE for a max of 50 TPE. My 2 cents, interested to hear what others think.
Carryover TPE - iamslm22 - 04-17-2018
(04-17-2018, 12:16 PM)Roly Wrote:Yeah, like I first mentioned, high prices, limited amount of TPE. Enough that you'd want bigger contracts for it, but not enough that its ridiculous.
Even better if you could only spend salary $$ on it, but with prior discussions we've had it sounds like those systems of salary money being only good for one thing is a no go.
So I'd say around $2 mill per TPE for a max of 50 TPE. My 2 cents, interested to hear what others think.
2M per TPE? So to clarify a 50 TPE head start would cost 100M? At that price I don't even see the point.
Carryover TPE - run_CMC - 04-17-2018
What is the point of carryover TPE? I’m sure there’s stuff I’m missing, but seems to me it’s just to encourage early retirement? (People want to keep their TPE up so they retire before regressing a significant amount)
Also, if implemented, and someone let’s say has a TON of $$$, does that mean we could see DSFL rookies (recreates) with 500 TPE?
Carryover TPE - kckolbe - 04-17-2018
Ideally, I'd recommend that carryover be affected by money (to encourage big contracts and league jobs), length of previous char's career (long careers help build meaningful league history), and amount of TPE at time of retirement (to keep someone from keeping a character too low to be valuable "active").
Maybe a flat 1 TPE per season your char was in the NSFL (whether this means DSFL+NSFL or just NSFL up for grabs, but I prefer only NSFL), giving every re-create "something."
Additional TPE could be bought at a rate of...1m per TPE (I am insanely flexible on this, pulling right out of my ass)
The amount of total TPE carried over (awarded and bought combined) can not exceed...2% of the retiring player's current TPE (so 50 TPE for a 1,000 TPE player).
Carryover TPE - kckolbe - 04-17-2018
(04-17-2018, 10:56 AM)run_CMC Wrote:What is the point of carryover TPE? I’m sure there’s stuff I’m missing, but seems to me it’s just to encourage early retirement? (People want to keep their TPE up so they retire before regressing a significant amount)
Also, if implemented, and someone let’s say has a TON of $$$, does that mean we could see DSFL rookies (recreates) with 500 TPE?
I think it's to encourage people who are retiring to start over. Also, there will be caps.
Carryover TPE - adam2552 - 04-17-2018
I think there needs to be a minimum amount of season played to be eligible for this. Something like 10 seasons. Otherwise you could just keep doing this every season, and slowly building a super player who is still 8 season from regression or whatever. Then you can buy a max of 50 TPE for $50mil or something. I feel like a boost of 50 TPE isn't going to give anyone that large of an NSFL advantage, but would make them instant star in DSFL.
I think that this would increase people's desires for higher salaries. However, it also might not. For instance, if there is a lifelong single team player, he took the min contract his whole career. Now he's looking at retiring and recreating. But now not only is he going back to his team, he's also going to be behind anyone who didn't take the min contract their whole career.
Carryover TPE - iamslm22 - 04-17-2018
(04-17-2018, 01:15 PM)adam2552 Wrote:I think there needs to be a minimum amount of season played to be eligible for this. Something like 10 seasons. Otherwise you could just keep doing this every season, and slowly building a super player who is still 8 season from regression or whatever. Then you can buy a max of 50 TPE for $50mil or something. I feel like a boost of 50 TPE isn't going to give anyone that large of an NSFL advantage, but would make them instant star in DSFL.
I think that this would increase people's desires for higher salaries. However, it also might not. For instance, if there is a lifelong single team player, he took the min contract his whole career. Now he's looking at retiring and recreating. But now not only is he going back to his team, he's also going to be behind anyone who didn't take the min contract their whole career.
Only if that player doesn't have a league job. I want to make money more meaningful especially since we pay league jobs a good amount.
Carryover TPE - timeconsumer - 04-17-2018
(04-17-2018, 02:04 PM)kckolbe Wrote:pulling right out of my ass.
I see you've brought your PBE leadership style to the NSFL
Carryover TPE - Beaver - 04-17-2018
Piggy-backing on too many posts to quote all of them, if this system were to be implemented it would absolutely, 100% need:
-Raw TPE cap (ex: 50)
-Seasons played requirement (ex: cap goes up based on the length of a player's career or you have to hit a certain length to be eligible at all, etc.)
-A high cost (ex: $1m per TPE)
I also like the ideas of having:
-A % of total TPE cap which indirectly sets a seasons played requirement in a nice, clean manner
-Having a small amount of free carryover TPE that has its own hard cap within the overall hard cap
To expand on that last point I think it'd be good because it would allow the league to incentivize certain things that are good for league health and rewarding players for doing things that may not be in their short term best interest by allowing them to invest in the future. For example, if the league wants larger contracts you could give 1 free carryover TPE for, say, every $10m in contract money earned by a player up to a cap of 5 or 10 or whatever. There's been a lot of talk about separating contract money from other types of income, well carryover TPE could serve that purpose without causing any banking-related confusion.
If the league needs more defensive linemen they could give players at that position an extra carryover TPE for every 2 seasons or something so that user could get a jump start on their following player. If the league wants more parity they could give a free carryover TPE to any player that signs a 3+ year contract with a team that had a losing record the previous 2 seasons and plays out at least 2/3 of that contract. If the league wants to reward individual in-sim success they could give out free carryover TPE from "super milestones" like setting a single-season or career record or some such. If the league is disappointed in the quality of media they could give 3 free carryover TPE each season to the writers of the 3 best articles, determined in whatever manner they deem fit.
And most importantly, the league could change these conditions based on the evolving needs of the league.
Carryover TPE - iamslm22 - 04-17-2018
(04-17-2018, 01:42 PM)timeconsumer Wrote:I see you've brought your PBE leadership style to the NSFL
:towel: :cheers: