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*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - run_CMC - 01-12-2019

My only issue with this article (and I’m only bringing it up because he’s my player and I love him) is that Charlie Trout’s rookie season, while great, is *not* comparable to Selich’s season last year

BAL (S12) - Charlie Trout - LB 86 Tackles, 3 FR, 11 Sacks, 25 PD, 1 Safety

ARI (S11) - Alex Selich - LB 134 Tackles, 3 TFL, 4 FF, 1 FR, 6 Sacks, 2 INT, 17 PD, 1 Blocked Punt

Those sack numbers by Trout are great, and so is 8 more pass deflections, but Selich’s 6 takeaways versus 3, and 9.57 tackles per game versus 6.14, make a big difference to me

@Tomen I love u


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - manicmav36 - 01-12-2019

(01-12-2019, 05:45 PM)YoungTB Wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Adams played a lot of snaps lined up as a receiver, and OCO basically played an air raid offense. When you take that into account, his year isn't all that impressive. He was a WR that basically took snaps at RB some times. As a pure RB, Brown was one of if not the best in all three major categories, rushing, receiving, and blocking.

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I somewhat agree with you here. Adams earned the FB designation which means he was in fact lining up as a receiver from time to time (no idea how often). In my mind, that FB designation removes him from the running for RB of the year almost by itself. I do think he is a strong consideration for Offensive Player of the Year though. He was great both through the air and on the ground and a real game-changer for the Otters.


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - AdamS - 01-13-2019

A fullback is a type of running back. The award is called Running Back of the Year. It is not called Runner of the Year. Docking people for achieving at their position from within the rules they are playing under is highly frustrating.

Either players should be allowed to line up in various ways within the rules and do things and have those successes accounted for and recognized....or players should not be allowed to do that if their broader achievements aren't supposed to count. This "we're gonna allow it but also hold it against you when it comes to recognition" bullshit needs to be gone yesterday.

It's the worst of all choices.



*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - BWIII - 01-13-2019

(01-13-2019, 01:53 AM)AdamS Wrote:A fullback is a type of running back. The award is called Running Back of the Year. It is not called Runner of the Year. Docking people for achieving at their position from within the rules they are playing under is highly frustrating.

Either players should be allowed to line up in various ways within the rules and do things and have those successes accounted for and recognized....or players should not be allowed to do that if their broader achievements aren't supposed to count. This "we're gonna allow it but also hold it against you when it comes to recognition" bullshit needs to be gone yesterday.

It's the worst of all choices.

at the end of the day if I'm comparing Adams and Brown it's 54 total yards to Adams vs 1 more touchdown for Brown. Then factor in Brown had 15 pancakes and 0 sacks allowed to Adams' 5 pancakes and 1 sack allowed......overall it's extremely close, but given the pancakes (and the 1 touchdown I'd rather have than 54 more yards) and sacks I'd lean Brown if it were between those two


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - majesiu - 01-13-2019

(01-13-2019, 11:17 AM)BWIII Wrote:at the end of the day if I'm comparing Adams and Brown it's 54 total yards to Adams vs 1 more touchdown for Brown.  Then factor in Brown had 15 pancakes and 0 sacks allowed to Adams' 5 pancakes and 1 sack allowed......overall it's extremely close, but given the pancakes (and the 1 touchdown I'd rather have than 54 more yards) and sacks I'd lean Brown if it were between those two

Are you completely ignoring efficiency in this case? Adams averaged a yard more per rush attempt and 3.3 per pass caught.


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - manicmav36 - 01-13-2019

(01-13-2019, 04:53 AM)AdamS Wrote:A fullback is a type of running back. The award is called Running Back of the Year. It is not called Runner of the Year. Docking people for achieving at their position from within the rules they are playing under is highly frustrating.

Either players should be allowed to line up in various ways within the rules and do things and have those successes accounted for and recognized....or players should not be allowed to do that if their broader achievements aren't supposed to count. This "we're gonna allow it but also hold it against you when it comes to recognition" bullshit needs to be gone yesterday.

It's the worst of all choices.

In the real world, yes, a fullback is a type of running back. In our sim, things are a bit different though. It gives the player a clear advantage in receiving yards by allowing them to run longer routes and there's no arguing that. He averages roughly 40% more yards per reception than the best receiving RB due to the routes he's allowed to run. One only has to look at Asipi, who is also a FB, to confirm that. As a rookie he has the 2nd most yards per reception of all RB/FBs. Because of that, my personal opinion is that FBs shouldn't be considered for RBotY. People seem to be glossing over the fact that I said he's a strong consideration for OPotY though.


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - DeathOnReddit - 01-13-2019

(01-13-2019, 07:58 AM)manicmav36 Wrote:In the real world, yes, a fullback is a type of running back. In our sim, things are a bit different though. It gives the player a clear advantage in receiving yards by allowing them to run longer routes and there's no arguing that. He averages roughly 40% more yards per reception than the best receiving RB due to the routes he's allowed to run. One only has to look at Asipi, who is also a FB, to confirm that. As a rookie he has the 2nd most yards per reception of all RB/FBs. Because of that, my personal opinion is that FBs shouldn't be considered for RBotY. People seem to be glossing over the fact that I said he's a strong consideration for OPotY though.

This.


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - Rabidsponge21 - 01-13-2019

Maybe next year Sad

Enough tackles and TFL I feek but lack the sacks to get a look


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - timeconsumer - 01-13-2019

(01-13-2019, 08:58 AM)manicmav36 Wrote:In the real world, yes, a fullback is a type of running back. In our sim, things are a bit different though. It gives the player a clear advantage in receiving yards by allowing them to run longer routes and there's no arguing that. He averages roughly 40% more yards per reception than the best receiving RB due to the routes he's allowed to run. One only has to look at Asipi, who is also a FB, to confirm that. As a rookie he has the 2nd most yards per reception of all RB/FBs. Because of that, my personal opinion is that FBs shouldn't be considered for RBotY. People seem to be glossing over the fact that I said he's a strong consideration for OPotY though.

Asipi is only a FB in the index because they moved him to outside WR for the last set of games. He played most of the season receiving out of the slot.


*S12 NSFL Awards Candidates - SwagSloth - 01-13-2019

As far as receiving backs not being eligible for RBotY, one precedent is that, in S5, then RB Eric Kennedy was in a similar situation where most of his yards came from receiving, not rushing. Therefore, many people did not want to vote him RBotY, which made a lot of sense to me. He ended up winning OPotY, but no position award. This felt like a good solution to me.

This was before the FB fix was implemented, but the idea seems the same to me. RBotY has always been more of a Leading Rusher award.