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RE: S28 Rules Summit - iStegosauruz - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:46 AM)slate Wrote:(03-22-2021, 11:41 AM)iStegosauruz Wrote: Allowing General Managers and Head Office to have fun with a fellow member of that group during the busiest time of the season for us - two drafts, regression, the Ultimus, the Ultimini, Rules Summits, Off-Season Prep, etc. - should not be used as a blackmark against anyone and isn't an indication that individuals don't take their jobs seriously. Head Office is constantly told we're too formal and don't look like relatable humans to the rest of the league. When we make decisions that showcase that fact we're criticized for doing it. The league doesn't get it both ways.
I understand wanting to add some humor to HO and make it feel more relatable / part of the rest of the league, but it shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp that Rules Summit is probably the single worst place to attempt to do that.
I absolutely am willing to acknowledge that mistake - even though I still disagree with it in some ways personally.
That all being said, using it as a vehicle to advance an agenda that the league administration and management don't care for their jobs is in my personal opinion absolutely bad faith. It completely ignores and negates the actual changes the league made and also ignores how quickly and effectively management and administration has responded to issues within the league over the past few seasons. I take major issue with that.
RE: S28 Rules Summit - LimJahey - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:49 AM)SDCore Wrote: Hahaha can't hold me back. Also so many salty bitches can't take a joke eh?Got time for jokes but don’t have time to tell me my departments payout structure is being completely changed? Sit the fuck down you clown
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RE: S28 Rules Summit - tMuse - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:41 AM)iStegosauruz Wrote: In any of these seasons we are not using our full slate of rule proposals. If the community at large has changes they'd like to see in the rulebook approach your GM, any relevant department head, or any member of Head Office. We have MORE than enough space.The Union currently relies, mostly, on leaks of the proposed rules. We, otherwise, have no idea what is and whas is not proposed. This makes it super hard for us to propose rules.
That is not a vindication or opinion on the union or providing some level of vote to the general member base. Its an acknowledgement that the union/member base voting ideas came on the heels of a six (and maybe more) season low in rule proposals. I respect and understand that the general member base of the league does not possess direct votes but there are still ways to influence proceedings in rules summits, and one major indicator (not the only, but one we can look at) of that is rule quantity.
Also the plan of the union is for the players to have a say in rules that affect US players.
It's just super sad to see that we players shouldn't have a say in whats happening in the league. The only times we can move anything as players is if we start a giant shitstorm (see Trivia / Predictions some seasons ago).
Giving the playerbase a unified voice would make a lot of things clearer and easier.
RE: S28 Rules Summit - Sermokala - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:49 AM)SDCore Wrote: Hahaha can't hold me back. Also so many salty bitches can't take a joke eh?Yeah see this is exactly the attitude we see with this. we hear stories and stories about how toxic and hateful management chat gets and yet the best "joke" we get from management chat is about how we're all salty bitches because we're not apart of the "cool kids" who hate being apart of the in group and bitch to us about it.
RE: S28 Rules Summit - sakrosankt - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:42 AM)Memento Mori Wrote: If only I was this good at getting the team to win games
Why? It's efficient to call it a season after regular season, no more DC submissions, etc. That's the truly efficient path haha
RE: S28 Rules Summit - ScorpXCracker - 03-22-2021
i am outraged that ho tried having fun thats gotta be illegal
RE: S28 Rules Summit - slate - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:49 AM)deadlunatic Wrote: My main question is why are votes not transparent?
Because a rule to make it more transparent failed.
The concerns that got brought up in rules discussion chat re: my proposed rule (Vote Splits) was that it would expose HO to more ire from the rest of the league if there were a vote that was voted yes on by 13/14 GMs and only 1/7 HO+owner+simmer, or something like that. In my opinion HO should be able to defend their votes if something like that were to happen, but I kind of get the concern.
I do think individual ballots would probably be too far (it's a good thing that we can't know exactly which GMs voted for/against something, IMO, since that just leads to extremely targeted harassment). But I thought my proposal was a solid compromise.
RE: S28 Rules Summit - tMuse - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:49 AM)SDCore Wrote: Hahaha can't hold me back. Also so many salty bitches can't take a joke eh?HO be like "why are the salty bitches pissed again?"
RE: S28 Rules Summit - SDCore - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:54 AM)Sermokala Wrote:(03-22-2021, 11:49 AM)SDCore Wrote: Hahaha can't hold me back. Also so many salty bitches can't take a joke eh?Yeah see this is exactly the attitude we see with this. we hear stories and stories about how toxic and hateful management chat gets and yet the best "joke" we get from management chat is about how we're all salty bitches because we're not apart of the "cool kids" who hate being apart of the in group and bitch to us about it.
I'm not in management...
RE: S28 Rules Summit - Sermokala - 03-22-2021
(03-22-2021, 11:58 AM)SDCore Wrote:I'm sorry I just assumed you being in HO that you were somehow involved in the management of the league.(03-22-2021, 11:54 AM)Sermokala Wrote:(03-22-2021, 11:49 AM)SDCore Wrote: Hahaha can't hold me back. Also so many salty bitches can't take a joke eh?Yeah see this is exactly the attitude we see with this. we hear stories and stories about how toxic and hateful management chat gets and yet the best "joke" we get from management chat is about how we're all salty bitches because we're not apart of the "cool kids" who hate being apart of the in group and bitch to us about it.
I'm not in management...