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*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - Shadowz - 09-20-2017
Some great points from all of you. My two cents is that 3 mandatory seasons in the DSFL would be a bit much. People want to be able to compete in the top league, and having to wait 3 months ish irl to do that might make user's activity wane. Of course as TPE values get higher in the NSFL, starting jobs will be harder to come by for recent NSFL draftees, but that's what I see the DSFL as a solution for.
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - kckolbe - 09-20-2017
(09-20-2017, 11:21 AM)Shadowz Wrote:Some great points from all of you. My two cents is that 3 mandatory seasons in the DSFL would be a bit much. People want to be able to compete in the top league, and having to wait 3 months ish irl to do that might make user's activity wane. Of course as TPE values get higher in the NSFL, starting jobs will be harder to come by for recent NSFL draftees, but that's what I see the DSFL as a solution for.
I think the whole point behind having a MINOR league as opposed to a COLLEGE is to avoid those unnecessary rules and let the "market" determine which league you play in. If no NSFL team wants you bad enough, off to the minors. Personally, I look forward to seeing more washed up inactives play there as well.
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - ItsJustBarry - 09-20-2017
(09-20-2017, 01:21 PM)Shadowz Wrote:Some great points from all of you. My two cents is that 3 mandatory seasons in the DSFL would be a bit much. People want to be able to compete in the top league, and having to wait 3 months ish irl to do that might make user's activity wane.
I would rather play and compete in the DSFL than sit the bench and be subbed in for 1 formation in NSFL. Playing and being productive is exciting and excitement should retain activity. I am probably an extreme but I can say with certainty that if I hadn't been waived by the Otters (or any team) for S2, there is less than 1% chance I would have remained active and developed my player for the 3+ weeks leading up to the S3 draft. The DSFL is a great idea to keep people active. Our struggle now is there aren't enough players to supplement the DSFL teams yet.
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - ADwyer87 - 09-20-2017
I mean, on one hand I agree, and also can't speak about how stuff has been managed seeing as I am not a DSFL GM. But a lot of the call up-send down stuff has been unique to both inaugural season and to the Yeti having a fire sale.
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - Zeegee - 09-21-2017
What if a player gets called up from a DSFL team, that team gets a bot with the same stats for the rest of the season?
Maybe even have the DSFL bot upgrade TPE mirrored to the player that got called up.
I feel like with the "mirror-bot" for the season, DSFL GMs won't feel like they got shafted that hard, plus if there is a last minute call up, the GM can still use the player for the game.
I don't think a lot of people would want to be in an NCAA/ development league for multiple seasons.
It seems like this and the "Player retiring out of the blue and screwing the team he is on/ got traded to/ got a huge contract from" are the two biggest issues that I think we can come up with some good ideas to remedy.
Thoughts? Questions? Concerns? Top Hat Full of Bees? :tophat:
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - Rindiee - 09-21-2017
(09-21-2017, 10:17 AM)Zeegee Wrote:What if a player gets called up from a DSFL team, that team gets a bot with the same stats for the rest of the season?
Maybe even have the DSFL bot upgrade TPE mirrored to the player that got called up.
I feel like with the "mirror-bot" for the season, DSFL GMs won't feel like they got shafted that hard, plus if there is a last minute call up, the GM can still use the player for the game.
Thoughts? Questions? Concerns? Top Hat Full of Bees? :tophat:
I like the suggestions and the thought process. In terms of making the DSFL GM feel like they didn't get as shafted, it's a good thing. Besides that, it's just not the same having bots. It's also just extra work needing to be done by having a mirror-bot. I do like the thought process though like I said, I'm just not sure if it's realistic.
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - Archon - 09-21-2017
(09-21-2017, 11:17 AM)Zeegee Wrote:What if a player gets called up from a DSFL team, that team gets a bot with the same stats for the rest of the season?
No idea what the logistics are to implement this but it sounds like a great idea.
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - Rindiee - 09-21-2017
(09-21-2017, 10:29 AM)Archon Wrote:No idea what the logistics are to implement this but it sounds like a great idea.
It would just be more man power of logging player progression of the players who were called up.
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - Zeegee - 09-21-2017
Also, I am not super privy to DSFL stats, but aren't the human players Stats considerably better than the bots?
So even if someone got called up and they didn't go with the whole mirroring-stat idea, they would still have players of considerable talent?
*Why the DSFL is flawed: A Rant - kckolbe - 09-21-2017
I think that call-ups/send-downs are part of draft evaluation in the DSFL. I passed on SEVERAL players for fear they were higher risk of being called up (Bender Rodriguez being the best example, as he was better than some starters on his own team), so I did take a BIT of joy in call-ups.
What *did* bother me was that the Yeti called up one O line and sent down another, yet the new send-down was open to all teams, even though one was clearly replacing the other. I would have awarded that player to the DSFL team.
The "first come, first serve" on send-downs really bothers me. I think all players coming to the DSFL post-draft should be waivers, and I think that giving teams that lose a player to call-ups higher priority would offset the pain a little.