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I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - 7hawk77 - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 03:57 PM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:This is like the people who tell athletes to "stay in their lane" when discussing politics.

I would love to explain to you what I've been doing to try to improve my team, but that has fuck all to do with this. This isn't "another project", one of my players was hit by bullshit like this. And not only that, this affects the bigger part of the league and honestly I'd much rather deal with the league being a safe place before tweaking my blitz ratio by two degrees.

My players enjoy what little locker room we have. I may not have it all figured out, but that's what I care about, my players.

@kckolbe

I will say that Jiggly isn't completely off base here. Obviously he should try to make his team competitive as possible, but there are other qualities that make him a good GM.

For example, @ExemplaryChad played for the blues and he decided to write a piece of media regarding the national anthem saying that he was protesting. No more than 5 Minutes later, Jiggly had written in character how Alexandra Jones would back up that decision and the entire blues team would be united with him. It was a really cool role play moment on the boards.

I talked to him about it and that random experience was probably more enjoyable to ExemplaryChad than the experience of winning the DSFL cup would have been.

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - 7hawk77 - 11-17-2017

Also brb locking this thread.

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - manicmav36 - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 04:38 PM)kckolbe Wrote:Hey Jiggly, nice to see you taking a break from taking a break to come lecture us again. How's the team you are paid 9m to lead to success doing? Dead last? How bout that.

I don't like witch hunts.

I really don't like abuses of power.

But I can not STAND people who sit around and contribute nothing trying to high-road the people actually getting involved. The league needs people who speak up, yes, but they also need a DSFL GM. Be that first, THEN take on other projects.

Right now, I have about as much interest in your opinion as you have in your players.

Well that's not very nice.

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - kckolbe - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 03:20 PM)7hawk77 Wrote:@kckolbe

I will say that Jiggly isn't completely off base here. Obviously he should try to make his team competitive as possible, but there are other qualities that make him a good GM.

For example, @ExemplaryChad played for the blues and he decided to write a piece of media regarding the national anthem saying that he was protesting. No more than 5 Minutes later, Jiggly had written in character how Alexandra Jones would back up that decision and the entire blues team would be united with him. It was a really cool role play moment on the boards.

I talked to him about it and that random experience was probably more enjoyable to ExemplaryChad than the experience of winning the DSFL cup would have been.

There is more to being a good GM, especially in the DSFL. I would say the most important thing is keeping new players engaged, learning and developing. This is where Jiggly tries to make us think he is succeeding, but that is not reality.

http://nsfl.jcink.net/index.php?showforum=31

Look at how little use the Blues transactions thread gets. Despite having...7 picks, I think (1 per round and an extra 5th rounder), even he admits his team isn't really that active.

Add to that him paying himself 3 million more than his 3rd rounder, and you see his actions are nowhere near as player-oriented as claimed.

While Jiggly puts all his effort into lecturing, iamslm22 allowed a teammate to interview him and keep the whole payout. I have recorded multiple podcasts with Roly and The_Hero taking well under a fair share. Slm and I have also started offering strategy sessions for players interested in becoming gms one day.

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - Jiggly_333 - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 04:34 PM)kckolbe Wrote:There is more to being a good GM, especially in the DSFL. I would say the most important thing is keeping new players engaged, learning and developing. This is where Jiggly tries to make us think he is succeeding, but that is not reality.

http://nsfl.jcink.net/index.php?showforum=31

Look at how little use the Blues transactions thread gets. Despite having...7 picks, I think (1 per round and an extra 5th rounder), even he admits his team isn't really that active.

Add to that him paying himself 3 million more than his 3rd rounder, and you see his actions are nowhere near as player-oriented as claimed.

While Jiggly puts all his effort into lecturing, iamslm22 allowed a teammate to interview him and keep the whole payout. I have recorded multiple podcasts with Roly and The_Hero taking well under a fair share. Slm and I have also started offering strategy sessions for players interested in becoming gms one day.

This thread isn't about you, this thread isn't about me, this thread isn't about the DSFL.

This is about how we shouldn't be dicks to each other. If you want to try to grill me about my GMing, go make a different post and I will gladly answer for myself there. This is about treating people with respect and not trying to pile onto someone when you don't like them.

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - cosbornballboy - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 01:57 PM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:This is like the people who tell athletes to "stay in their lane" when discussing politics.

I would love to explain to you what I've been doing to try to improve my team, but that has fuck all to do with this. This isn't "another project", one of my players was hit by bullshit like this. And not only that, this affects the bigger part of the league and honestly I'd much rather deal with the league being a safe place before tweaking my blitz ratio by two degrees.

My players enjoy what little locker room we have. I may not have it all figured out, but that's what I care about, my players.

Well you don't have a better locker room than us, you can ask @JKortesi81 @CDub2 and @JohnWachter about that

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - Sweetwater - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 04:57 PM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:This is like the people who tell athletes to "stay in their lane" when discussing politics.

I would love to explain to you what I've been doing to try to improve my team, but that has fuck all to do with this. This isn't "another project", one of my players was hit by bullshit like this. And not only that, this affects the bigger part of the league and honestly I'd much rather deal with the league being a safe place before tweaking my blitz ratio by two degrees.

My players enjoy what little locker room we have. I may not have it all figured out, but that's what I care about, my players.

Remind me again which of your players was affected by the Head office doing the thing we had been asked to do by shutting down threads that had lead to, or were leading to harassment?

How many people have to leave or quit their league jobs before we're no longer overstepping our boundaries? 1 more? 2 more? 10 More? Or is it just if it's one of your players?

You know good and well if one of your players had been accused of multi-ing and people started throwing accusations at you, you'd want the thread locked. The HO made a post about being more vigilant about harrasent, and now that we're acting on it you're upset about that.

Also, this has nothing to do with the current political climate, but way to get Goodwin's Law out of the way in your OP. This has EVERYTHING to do with baseless accusations against players that have put more than a lot of others into this league, and having been dragged through the mud for no reason.

As far as wanting everyone to PM us, we've explained that this is so we can get a full story to make an educated ruling on. The thread that you want left open are where the wild scattered info comes from that you hate so much. We don't shut down threads to silence discussion because there is no discussion in the threads we shut down. Just baseless speculation and harassment.

If you need any more proof of this, just look in this thread. Which I will gladly leave open no matter how toxic it gets because that's what you said you want. Unfortunately, this means I, personally, won't shut it down even if you say you feel incredibly harassed, because you didn't like me closing a thread for doing the same thing for someone else.

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - kckolbe - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 03:48 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:If you need any more proof of this, just look in this thread. Which I will gladly leave open no matter how toxic it gets because that's what you said you want. Unfortunately, this means I, personally, won't shut it down even if you say you feel incredibly harassed, because you didn't like me closing a thread for doing the same thing for someone else.

This is a level of coldness I never thought I'd see from you. Not judging, but damn.

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - cosbornballboy - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 02:54 PM)kckolbe Wrote:This is a level of coldness I never thought I'd see from you. Not judging, but damn.

IDK I kinda like the new take-no-bullshit Sweetwater...

I Dare HO To Lock This Topic - 7hawk77 - 11-17-2017

(11-17-2017, 04:57 PM)cosbornballboy Wrote:IDK I kinda like the new take-no-bullshit Sweetwater...

I vote he name changes to Saltwater.

:belly: