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Salary Minimums - tlk742 - 07-19-2018 ahem...salary minimums don't work. They sadly don't. Unless the mindset changes, people are going to take the minimum... Salary Minimums - kckolbe - 07-19-2018 (07-19-2018, 12:30 PM)tlk742 Wrote:ahem...salary minimums don't work. They sadly don't. Your second statement proves why the first is inaccurate. Accurate salary minimums are NECESSARY because people are going to take the minimum. Salary Minimums - speculadora - 07-19-2018 but why is $2m *not* an "accurate" minimum? there's not really any point of comparison for what we have here Salary Minimums - kckolbe - 07-19-2018 (07-19-2018, 05:02 PM)speculadora Wrote:but why is $2m *not* an "accurate" minimum? there's not really any point of comparison for what we have here Did you read my first post? If so, is there part of it that you don't agree with that leads to that conclusion? Fyodorovich is going to be paid less than a shit ton of people with far less TPE. Salary Minimums - speculadora - 07-19-2018 (07-19-2018, 08:06 PM)kckolbe Wrote:Did you read my first post? If so, is there part of it that you don't agree with that leads to that conclusion? Fyodorovich is going to be paid less than a shit ton of people with far less TPE. oh this is a matter of semantics then, because your issue would be more with the AAV than the minimum itself. I was referring to the suggestion that $2m for a 500(?) or whatever TPE player is somehow inaccurate. I articulated my exact stance earlier in the thread, though. an appropriate increase in minimums is likely going to be insignificantly small on the player level without changing the cap in parallel, and if we change the cap to accommodate minimums we serve to do nothing but mess up the equipment/training pricing. I debated something similar with someone in GM chat, but let's say NOLA had to pay Maj as if he were earning 150 tpe per season. His contract, over a three season life, would then be $9M instead of $6M. So NOLA saves $3M over the life of his 3-year deal. That averages out to $1M per season and that's quite frankly not something I see as problematic. Salary Minimums - kckolbe - 07-19-2018 (07-19-2018, 05:19 PM)speculadora Wrote:oh this is a matter of semantics then, because your issue would be more with the AAV than the minimum itself. I was referring to the suggestion that $2m for a 500(?) or whatever TPE player is somehow inaccurate. Okay. I see what you were referring to now. I think the concern of messing up training/equipment is a minor one. The league has changed a lot to do with money, like DSFL salaries, tweet money, etc, and gear/training has never been a concern. I think a change that increases parity, as I believe this would, is worth making gear SLIGHTLY easier to purchase. Salary Minimums - Muford - 07-19-2018 (07-19-2018, 12:30 PM)Beaver Wrote:1 INT franchise corner lmao Salary Minimums - ItsJustBarry - 07-19-2018 (07-19-2018, 07:22 PM)kckolbe Wrote:Okay. I see what you were referring to now. I think the concern of messing up training/equipment is a minor one. The league has changed a lot to do with money, like DSFL salaries, tweet money, etc, and gear/training has never been a concern. I think a change that increases parity, as I believe this would, is worth making gear SLIGHTLY easier to purchase. You can stop wasting your time. TC commented earlier that this was a bad idea and nothing changes without his blessing. This is his league, we are all just playing in it. [QUOTE=timeconsumer,Jul 19 2018, 09:17 AM]If you raise the minimums all that will happen is people will sign for the new minimum, and still find ways to game the system by holding TPE etc until they re-sign and blah blah blah. You'll change the amount but the minimum game is going to stay exactly the same, and I think that could be a worse problem.[QUOTE] Salary Minimums - kckolbe - 07-19-2018 Quote:You can stop wasting your time. TC commented earlier that this was a bad idea and nothing changes without his blessing. This is his league, we are all just playing in it. @timeconsumer You've seen the PBE cap and minimum system. Do you really not think something similar would work here? Salary Minimums - timeconsumer - 07-19-2018 (07-19-2018, 10:21 PM)kckolbe Wrote:You've seen the PBE cap and minimum system. Do you really not think something similar would work here? Not really, no. I think there's too many differences between the leagues in terms of rosters. A lot of people here want to be WRs. But we have teams here who instead of carrying 3 WRs will just stick a corner at 3rd WR to save money. Some teams like us carry 4 and pay them an assload, but we're the exception. So what happens when every team is strapped for cash and decides to carry the minimum skill position players by using LBs as FBs and CBs as two-way players at WR and we have a bunch of WRs who can't get a decent FA contract or even get called up from the DSFL? If we want to fix the problem, you need to make money scarce. Make media worth less. Make graphics worth less. Make Twitter worth less. Make equipment cost more. Make position changes cost more. |