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Thudd Kassel Retires - Duilio05 - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 01:06 PM)BigKicks Wrote:...because of that HO hate, which we need to resolve so that something like this doesn’t happen again. If we do nothing, a larger, much more destructive powder keg could blow.
This. So much this. HO isn't out to get any one team or player. You may disagree with their decisions and are free to argue about HO choices, but part of their job is to ensure we ALL adhere to the rules of the league. We're all here to have a good time including HO. Instigating "anti-HO" or "US vs HO" mentality doesn't help the league.
Thudd Kassel Retires - White Cornerback - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 09:00 PM)Duilio05 Wrote:This. So much this. HO isn't out to get any one team or player. You may disagree with their decisions and are free to argue about HO choices, but part of their job is to ensure we ALL adhere to the rules of the league. We're all here to have a good time including HO. Instigating "anti-HO" or "US vs HO" mentality doesn't help the league.
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Thudd Kassel Retires - Dylandeluxe - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 03:00 PM)Duilio05 Wrote:This. So much this. HO isn't out to get any one team or player. You may disagree with their decisions and are free to argue about HO choices, but part of their job is to ensure we ALL adhere to the rules of the league. We're all here to have a good time including HO. Instigating "anti-HO" or "US vs HO" mentality doesn't help the league.
I will say this one last thing and then bounce just so I clear it up.
I genuinely think every member of HO is a nice and are good people.
I've had 95% pleasant conversations and interactions with Eco,Bex, Dwyer , Numbers, manic and mav.
I just 100% disagree with the way the rule book is handled and the "Spirit of the rule" ruling. I think its a load of bs. But I personally don't hate anyone from HO. I'll apologize for the Fuck HO comments as manic said they weren't warranted. I had a heated convo with HO in the GM chat that led to that.
That being said I don't want to work under an HO or be apart of a league that treats it's rule book that liberally or free to interpretation so that's why I made the decision I did. I love all the people in this league, even the ones talking shit about me right now. But I just feel that strongly about the topic. At the end of the day it is what it is. I wasn't talked to before this decision and the last communication I had from a member of HO at the time was that it would be changed moving forward but mine would go through. Then after an off-season of busting my ass to get the sim ready as well as fixing the whole DSFL fiasco I log in to see the announcement and It just felt like a kick in the nuts. Was my reaction ridiculous and too far? Absolutely and I knew that as I made it. But it's about the principle of the matter when it comes down to it for me.
Peace, love all yall.
Thudd Kassel Retires - AdamS - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 07:11 AM)shadyshoelace Wrote:That HO member said something ambiguous that did not definitively say anything as HO authority on 11/16. Dwyer's post indicated that the vote on the rule happened on 11/17. On 11/17, another HO member communicated in GM chat to the PHI GMs that the ruling was as Dwyer laid out and that the contract needed to be changed, along with the text of the updated rule. Then one of the primary instigators in this situation said "if you wanna retroactively count this with a rule that's fine."
You know the full story and you know that no matter what he felt, his timeline and complaints are objectively wrong. Perpetuating that story doesn't help anything here.
I also know that you didnt come in swinging with all this info til the person had already left chat so he himself didn't see any of it.
Talking about how a person felt as the basis of their actions and talking about facts presented later are two different things. No matter how many times you try to shove your interpretation onto his decisions.
Thudd Kassel Retires - shadyshoelace - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 03:14 PM)AdamS Wrote:I also know that you didnt come in swinging with all this info til the person had already left chat so he himself didn't see any of it.
Talking about how a person felt as the basis of their actions and talking about facts presented later are two different things. No matter how many times you try to shove your interpretation onto his decisions.
Lol if your point was literally just "he felt this way" then sure thing, you're right. But your post made it seem like his interpretation was or could be correct, when it entirely isn't. Just wanted to clear that up for everyone. You might notice that I never "shoved my interpretations onto his decisions." In fact, I said no matter what he felt, his timeline and complaints are objectively wrong.
Thudd Kassel Retires - AdamS - 12-10-2019
(12-10-2019, 03:47 PM)shadyshoelace Wrote:Lol if your point was literally just "he felt this way" then sure thing, you're right. But your post made it seem like his interpretation was or could be correct, when it entirely isn't. Just wanted to clear that up for everyone. You might notice that I never "shoved my interpretations onto his decisions." In fact, I said no matter what he felt, his timeline and complaints are objectively wrong.
No. No my post did not make it seem that way. At all.
Dont put words in my mouth. One and only warning.