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*Why being nice is ruining league parity - Eco - 01-13-2020
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Am I a genius or what?
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - infinitempg - 01-13-2020
as someone who is sitting on a planet's worth of money from doing other shit, i feel personally attacked
jk this brings up good points but I think in the end minimum contracts are still decent market value for a high TPE player. i don't know if teams should be hurt when their players buy in to the vision and are willing to sacrifice their own bank to make it happen - or punishing players who don't need money because they do other jobs
i'd say it's hurting league parity but as my other rich-as-fuck brother @IsaStarcrossed said, most teams are running close to min contracts.
is it worth discussing? sure. but opening up this box will also open up a discussion on what the new cap should be, which is worth discussing on its own already
(01-12-2020, 05:17 PM)JKortesi81 Wrote:there's zero way a Kicker or a DE should become a QB.okay now i feel attacked r00d </3
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - 37thchamber - 01-13-2020
(01-12-2020, 11:09 PM)Modern_Duke Wrote:I haven't thought about it too hard so I'm not formally proposing anything, but it could make sense to classify 'Salary $' vs. 'Job/Media/Twitter $' separately.
I suggested this ages ago. It didn't go down well.
Nor did higher contract minimums.
Nor did a rule that forces teams to pay increasing salaries to active players across the length of a contract -- to minimise the benefit of the whole "opt-out and re-sign for less" manoeuvre.
The problem is that this is a cash league with plenty of (better/easier) ways to make cash outside your contract. There's no incentive to negotiate for a bigger contract in most cases, so discussions like this are ultimately pointless. You're ice-skating uphill.
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - DeadlyPlayer - 01-13-2020
(01-13-2020, 07:29 AM)37thchamber Wrote:I suggested this ages ago. It didn't go down well.THIS ^
Nor did higher contract minimums.
Nor did a rule that forces teams to pay increasing salaries to active players across the length of a contract -- to minimise the benefit of the whole "opt-out and re-sign for less" manoeuvre.
The problem is that this is a cash league with plenty of (better/easier) ways to make cash outside your contract. There's no incentive to negotiate for a bigger contract in most cases, so discussions like this are ultimately pointless. You're ice-skating uphill.
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - AdamS - 01-13-2020
I also suggested this in gm chat tonight and we had some discussions about it as a possible option. Amongst a great many other possible things.
The big key honestly is we have to find ways to make the money mean more. Money in general, salary money, etc. So that's where my particular focus in all this will be going forward.
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - IsaStarcrossed - 01-13-2020
(01-12-2020, 11:48 PM)run_CMC Wrote:My first season was $6,000,000, my other 2 are $4,000,000 (with conditional player options but we’ll ignore those for now). My TPE only became the next tier (above 600) fairly recently I think? Either way, that’s an average of 4.6m a season, which even using the 600+ min of 3m, is 1.6m over per season, not 1m.
Edit: I get that, for the coming season, I’m technically only 1m above. But, surely that’s kinda misleading when the first season I played was 3m over
It isn't misleading when given the context. Bex made 3m over her minimum her first season. She resigned for 1m over her minimum which is an average of 2m per season over minimum. The difference in signing a front loaded contract and doing what she did was semantics at best. The fact is, you and everyone else knew that you'd hit 600 TPE by the second season of your contract. There is even a chance that if you keep earning, you hit 800 TPE before the end of your contract. Just because you front loaded your contract and are now making near minimum doesn't change the fact that you are in fact making near minimum when it is someone in a similar situation getting called out here.
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - IsaStarcrossed - 01-13-2020
(01-13-2020, 01:42 AM)infinitempg Wrote:is it worth discussing? sure. but opening up this box will also open up a discussion on what the new cap should be, which is worth discussing on its own already
Oof. This part here hits close to home. Especially with this draft class stacked on top of a potential reddit draft class coming. As someone who runs the entire budget on a fully active team, I can tell you that it is virtually impossible to have a fully active team without most of the players taking minimum contracts. We even have a pretty nice distribution of players nearing regression, players just entering their primes, and players just getting started and its still hard to make ends meet with a fully active roster. With the current cap situation, if every active started demanding 2-3m above minimum, no one would be able to field a full roster. The fact is with oline bots, there are 23 players per team you should be thinking of. 11 offense, 11 defense, 1 kicker. If everyone decides to take just 2m over minimum, you're looking at an average of 5m per player. Which would put you at 110m on the season. Our cap simply doesn't allow that scenario. People have to take minimum or near to it just to make team budgets work as we speak.
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - manicmav36 - 01-13-2020
(01-13-2020, 08:24 AM)AdamS Wrote:I also suggested this in gm chat tonight and we had some discussions about it as a possible option. Amongst a great many other possible things.
The big key honestly is we have to find ways to make the money mean more. Money in general, salary money, etc. So that's where my particular focus in all this will be going forward.
First step, eliminate double media where people like Isa made their killing. Oh wait...
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - IsaStarcrossed - 01-13-2020
(01-13-2020, 09:23 AM)manicmav36 Wrote:First step, eliminate double media where people like Isa made their killing. Oh wait...
Oh my gosh. Could you imagine if I'd had double media? The dreams of all things I could buy.
*Why being nice is ruining league parity - Jiggly_333 - 01-13-2020
Super-teams bad.