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*Too far or not far enough? - iamslm22 - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 08:30 AM)kckolbe Wrote:My point is that when the Gibson stuff came up, you said it had no significant affect. For Noble, you said it likely gave them a win.
Well a QB is certainly more impactful, and I was going based off the sims ER did. His sims said it had no impact. As far as Noble is not worth even testing since there's already a swift punishment here.
*Too far or not far enough? - RavensFanFromOntario - 09-16-2017
You're aware that the higher you scale in the sim the more each individual attribute matters, I believe. Somebody told me, so fact check me.
Also, Noble was a commissioner, Gibson was inactive and wasn't his fault. He didn't try to do it and was still punished for it. Notably, guess who fucked up his approval: Noble.
*Too far or not far enough? - manicmav36 - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 08:17 AM)kckolbe Wrote:You do have me on one thing, though, which is that the action is more important than the impact. We KNOW Noble intended to cheat.
This is what's key for me. The intent was clearly malicious and he showed no remorse when confronted about it. The people saying the team is being unfairly punished is ridiculous though.
*Too far or not far enough? - kckolbe - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 09:34 AM)manicmav36 Wrote:The people saying the team is being unfairly punished is ridiculous though.
This takes my suggestion a bit out of context, though, as I wanted the PLAYER punished more harshly.
@RavensFanFromOntario, I know what you are referring to, but the TPE cost per upgrade outweighs the impact increase.
*Too far or not far enough? - manicmav36 - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 11:37 AM)kckolbe Wrote:This takes my suggestion a bit out of context, though, as I wanted the PLAYER punished more harshly.
Which I think is fair. We had people calling for the forced retirement of one of our players for deleting a comment. This is FAR worse.
*Too far or not far enough? - Kendrick - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 04:00 AM)BOOM™ Wrote:OK, so what's the solution? Also, would you have the same opinion if you weren't a Yeti now? Just asking, not an accusation.Yes I would. Crippling the team actually takes away the fun for the rest of it's members who had no knowledge of the situation. It takes the fun away from the members teammates. That one member should have his player punished to an extreme degree, I agree there.
In regards to a solution I hadn't thought about that yet, but its obvious when they punish Noble they didn't think about the trickle down effect as well.
*Too far or not far enough? - Bzerkap - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 01:43 PM)Kendrick Wrote:Yes I would. Crippling the team actually takes away the fun for the rest of it's members who had no knowledge of the situation. It takes the fun away from the members teammates. That one member should have his player punished to an extreme degree, I agree there.How is it obvious. What trickle down?
In regards to a solution I hadn't thought about that yet, but its obvious when they punish Noble they didn't think about the trickle down effect as well.
*Too far or not far enough? - Kendrick - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 12:55 PM)Bzerkap Wrote:How is it obvious. What trickle down?Essentially what the punishment does is make Yeti the least desirable place to go to now if it wasn't already. Noble deserves a punishment but something allowing his player to play but with a knock against his build is more desirable than having his player suspended for the season.
So now any person who becomes a FA next year that is currently on the Yeti know that it is the biggest upward battle and might as well join other teams this next off-season. It makes it seem like yes Noble is being suspended but the league is also handicapping one of their franchises for a big chunk of time and that isn't good for growth.
*Too far or not far enough? - TheWoZy - 09-16-2017
fk the haters
*Too far or not far enough? - Bzerkap - 09-16-2017
(09-16-2017, 01:58 PM)Kendrick Wrote:Essentially what the punishment does is make Yeti the least desirable place to go to now if it wasn't already. Noble deserves a punishment but something allowing his player to play but with a knock against his build is more desirable than having his player suspended for the season.Yea but there are now young QBs with something to gun for, they were rebuilding anyway, and if you have a strong ground game you can minimize the effectiveness of your QB. I think FAs would go there to help them win
So now any person who becomes a FA next year that is currently on the Yeti know that it is the biggest upward battle and might as well join other teams this next off-season. It makes it seem like yes Noble is being suspended but the league is also handicapping one of their franchises for a big chunk of time and that isn't good for growth.