(09-24-2017, 11:29 AM)jparks98 Wrote:(MAX: 90) Strength: 65
(MAX: 85) Agility: 55
(MAX: 25) Arm: 1
(MAX: 81) Intelligence: 45 max increased by 10 TPE
(MAX: 25) Throwing Accuracy: 1
(MAX: 91) Tackling: 65 max reduced by 60 TPE
(MAX: 85) Speed: 55 max increased by 50 TPE
(MAX: 50) Hands: 25
(MAX: 25) Pass Blocking: 1
(MAX: 25) Run Blocking: 1
(MAX: 100) Endurance: 60
(MAX: 25) Kick Power: 1
(MAX: 25) Kick Accuracy: 1

How I would do my mine. I really want my LB to be super versatile and be able to play in a 4-3 or 3-4

(09-24-2017, 11:38 AM)cosbornballboy Wrote:I want in

(MAX: 98) Strength: 60 (MAX increased by 45 TPE)
(MAX: 60) Agility: 45 (MAX reduced by 45 TPE)
(MAX: 25) Arm: 1
(MAX: 65) Intelligence: 50 (MAX reduced by 35 TPE)
(MAX: 25) Throwing Accuracy: 1
(MAX: 80) Tackling: 45 (MAX increased by 25 TPE)
(MAX: 69) Speed: 45 (MAX increased by 8 TPE)
(MAX: 60) Hands: 30
(MAX: 25) Pass Blocking: 1
(MAX: 25) Run Blocking: 1
(MAX: 100) Endurance: 60
(MAX: 25) Kick Power: 1
(MAX: 25) Kick Accuracy: 1

(09-24-2017, 11:42 AM)Symmetrik Wrote:(MAX: 50) Strength: 25 (30 TPE down)
(MAX: 95) Agility: 65
(MAX: 25) Arm: 1
(MAX: 80) Intelligence: 40 (50 TPE down)
(MAX: 25) Throwing Accuracy: 1
(MAX: 35) Tackling: 20
(MAX: 100) Speed: 70
(MAX: 96) Hands: 55 (90 TPE Up)
(MAX: 35) Pass Blocking: 10
(MAX: 25) Run Blocking: 10 (10 TPE down)
(MAX: 100) Endurance: 60
(MAX: 25) Kick Power: 1
(MAX: 25) Kick Accuracy: 1

It basically removes the variety of archetypes altogether. Every WR is just going to run speed, since that's the one you start at 100, and happens to be the most important. It's also got the bonus of Agility already at 95, then pull from some of the less useful stats to get Hands as high as you can. Speed at 100 is more important than Agility or Hands at 100.

Maybe it feels nice for defensive players who have a few more useful stats, but it's literally just going to put offensive players in the same box. Speed->Agility/Hands---Strength/Intelligence.

(09-24-2017, 11:01 AM)kckolbe Wrote:Man, that agility.  This is a big change, very aggressive.  Basically you are sacrificing pass rush ability to be a beast at TFLs.

(09-24-2017, 03:06 PM)kckolbe Wrote:So you brought up a very similar point to timeconsumer.  For SOME positions, there aren't as many differences, but WR is not one of them.  The height and weight difference of WR archetypes will continue to bring different builds into the game.

Looking at your proposed changes, I would love to see how it compared in test sims.  I feel like the importance of strength in preventing drops/interceptions is still kind of fuzzy.  I am gonna go out on a limb and say that other speed WRs might make different changes, which I see as a great thing.

(09-24-2017, 12:42 PM)Symmetrik Wrote:I've seen nothing to indicate that strength does anything but help break tackles. I was under or at 50 strength all last season and had what, 65 catches and 15 drops? Thanks, but hands is way more important for that.

And I doubt there would be much variety, especially once you get rid of the stats that have 0 use to WRs. Obviously Arm/Acc, and the Kick stats are off limits. Tackling is D only, and a WR would never pass block as they need to be the one catching the pass. And then Endurance which is the same across the board for all positions. Leaves us with 6 stats. Even run block is questionable as it would be of minimal help to an outside receiver. It should probably not be allowed to change, or very minimally. Personally, I'd say it can't go lower than 25.

(MAX: 65) Strength: 25
(MAX: 95) Agility: 65
(MAX: 85) Intelligence: 40
(MAX: 100) Speed: 70
(MAX: 90) Hands: 55
(MAX: 35) Run Blocking: 10

Speed is king. Everyone knows it. No way you would drop it down from 100, and it's already at 100 so you can't bring it up.

(MAX: 65) Strength: 25
(MAX: 95) Agility: 65
(MAX: 85) Intelligence: 40
(MAX: 90) Hands: 55
(MAX: 35) Run Blocking: 10

Hands is probably second best to speed for a WR. Up it as much as you can. Agility is huge too. Intelligence is nice but 80 should be plenty. 65 Strength is already low, bringing it down to 50 isn't going to make a huge difference, when most defensive players are above 65 anyway.

Maybe you drop a few points out of Agility to max Hands, but having every WR running 100 Speed/100 Hands/91 Agility or 100 Speed/96 Hands/95 Agility is less variety than we have now. People are picking different archetypes right now because they can either get Speed or Hands to 100. Maybe in name they'd still pick different archetypes, but pretty much everyone would try to max out both. And if you don't you're probably at a disadvantage.