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S17 W1 Resim - timeconsumer - 08-28-2019
SMH without a threat of mass retirement by GMs I don't see how this counts as drama
S17 W1 Resim - br0_0ker - 08-28-2019
So because my initial question was ignored: it looks like this was an error caused by updaters and/or HO in updating the sim file? As in, Austin followed all correct updating procedures and it was not their error that caused the resim? Because by the looks of it, there ought to be another resim after all these other errors people are talking about are found and corrected. Doesn't make sense to retain results when we know the sim file is wrong... or are we only doing that on a special case basis (and what are the conditions of this basis)?
Basically, what conditions are required for a team to get a resim, just value of TPE missing or who caused the error? Both?
S17 W1 Resim - dizzyDC - 08-28-2019
(08-28-2019, 11:37 AM)steelsound Wrote:So because my initial question was ignored: it looks like this was an error caused by updaters and/or HO in updating the sim file? As in, Austin followed all correct updating procedures and it was not their error that caused the resim? Because by the looks of it, there ought to be another resim after all these other errors people are talking about are found and corrected. Doesn't make sense to retain results when we know the sim file is wrong... or are we only doing that on a special case basis (and what are the conditions of this basis)?Yeah Austin followed updating procedure and I agree that a resim should only have occurred if all teams were given the opportunities to fix their rosters. At least in my opinion, on a team level, this wasn't Austin attempting to be sneaky or anything. As far as I know there is no specific criteria that determines when a resim should occur, I just know that the resims are generally frowned upon because of the shitstorms that they cause. I think all teams should be competing with proper rosters... but I'm also not HO.
Basically, what conditions are required for a team to get a resim, just value of TPE missing or who caused the error? Both?
S17 W1 Resim - manicmav36 - 08-28-2019
(08-28-2019, 11:37 AM)steelsound Wrote:So because my initial question was ignored: it looks like this was an error caused by updaters and/or HO in updating the sim file? As in, Austin followed all correct updating procedures and it was not their error that caused the resim? Because by the looks of it, there ought to be another resim after all these other errors people are talking about are found and corrected. Doesn't make sense to retain results when we know the sim file is wrong... or are we only doing that on a special case basis (and what are the conditions of this basis)?
Basically, what conditions are required for a team to get a resim, just value of TPE missing or who caused the error? Both?
No sure why HO is being thrown in here. HO has nothing to do with updating the sim file.
S17 W1 Resim - DeathOnReddit - 08-28-2019
1. It's so stupid that something like this could happen.
2. Of course there should be a re-sim, this is something that has a major effect on the result on the game.
Also to the ones complaining about their stats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wggTsCHXn94
S17 W1 Resim - manicmav36 - 08-28-2019
(08-28-2019, 11:47 AM)dizzyDC Wrote:Yeah Austin followed updating procedure and I agree that a resim should only have occurred if all teams were given the opportunities to fix their rosters. At least in my opinion, on a team level, this wasn't Austin attempting to be sneaky or anything. As far as I know there is no specific criteria that determines when a resim should occur, I just know that the resims are generally frowned upon because of the shitstorms that they cause. I think all teams should be competing with proper rosters... but I'm also not HO.
We fixed errors for 3 teams before the resim, Austin's was just the most egregious. All these other errors came to light after the resim, which took place late last night. 24 hours after the original sim. Teams had time to peruse the file.
S17 W1 Resim - Huskies311 - 08-28-2019
I agree with steelsound in that there should be some transparency as to what constitutes a resim- is it just a judgement call everytime? Will there be a resim for every error caught?
S17 W1 Resim - br0_0ker - 08-28-2019
(08-28-2019, 08:51 AM)manicmav36 Wrote:We fixed errors for 3 teams before the resim, Austin's was just the most egregious. All these other errors came to light after the resim, which took place late last night. 24 hours after the original sim. Teams had time to peruse the file.
If 2 other teams had errors, why was Austin's result the only one that resimmed? Shouldn't the teams that had errors also have been resimmed with the correct rosters/updates? Do we get to know what those errors were?
S17 W1 Resim - br0_0ker - 08-28-2019
(08-28-2019, 08:48 AM)manicmav36 Wrote:No sure why HO is being thrown in here. HO has nothing to do with updating the sim file.
HO made a decision to resim. If this was an error caused by updaters, then by following a policy of leniency, by extension this falls to HO as well. Since it was not caused by Austin, will there be a resim *any* time we find there is a breakdwon in the updating process, or what constitutes a resim in this specific instance? Simply the quantity of TPE not updated?
S17 W1 Resim - manicmav36 - 08-28-2019
(08-28-2019, 11:54 AM)steelsound Wrote:If 2 other teams had errors, why was Austin's result the only one that resimmed? Shouldn't the teams that had errors also have been resimmed with the correct rosters/updates? Do we get to know what those errors were?
Any team that had changes rquired was resimmed. That was the only one with a different result.