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Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - White Cornerback - 07-04-2017
(07-04-2017, 02:21 PM)adam2552 Wrote:Fixed. Thanks for the correction. (To be fair though, both roster pages have you guys at 136)I usually check the player updates section as it tends to be more to the true number as occasionally the roster page can be off by as much as two weeks.
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - RayCobaine - 07-04-2017
I'm going to petition my GM to pick him if we can, this type of stuff is directly against the spirit of the rules.
In that case, I'm going to get all of my friends to make OLinemen and they'll only play for Arizona.
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - Admin - 07-04-2017
(07-04-2017, 08:36 AM)RayCobaine Wrote:I'm going to petition my GM to pick him if we can, this type of stuff is directly against the spirit of the rules.The part your missing is it's the responsibility of the Otters to trade for him and pay fair value if he was chosen elseware. They aren't going to get him in the fourth round per say, so in the situation you presented, getting friends to sign up, it wouldn't quite work because you don't have five first round picks to take five o lineman who are friends. Clegane isn't going to fall out of the first round and be a huge steal because of this.
In that case, I'm going to get all of my friends to make OLinemen and they'll only play for Arizona.
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - RayCobaine - 07-04-2017
(07-04-2017, 10:41 AM)Ballerstorm Wrote:The part your missing is it's the responsibility of the Otters to trade for him and pay fair value if he was chosen elseware. They aren't going to get him in the fourth round per say, so in the situation you presented, getting friends to sign up, it wouldn't quite work because you don't have five first round picks to take five o lineman who are friends. Clegane isn't going to fall out of the first round and be a huge steal because of this.
Yeah but they can just wait it out. eventually people will stop drafting them and they'll end up in Arizona.
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - timeconsumer - 07-04-2017
(07-04-2017, 11:36 AM)RayCobaine Wrote:I'm going to petition my GM to pick him if we can, this type of stuff is directly against the spirit of the rules.
In that case, I'm going to get all of my friends to make OLinemen and they'll only play for Arizona.
It's pretty much written into the rules that a holdout is accepted. Sure, if the third round comes around and he gets selected by a team and the Otters had 2 chances to pick him up, too bad so sad. But if he goes top of the first round and doesn't want to play for that team it's completely within his rights as a player to refuse to play. If he doesn't sign he doesn't play, he can't earn TPE, and he goes back into the draft for the next season, possibly to repeat all over again.
He's just making his intentions known to the league so they can weigh the risk of possibly spending a top pick on a guy who will go inactive and/or possibly become a locker room tumor. That's not unheard of in the sports world. Maybe they draft him and nail a killer trade with the Otters and it works out. Maybe it doesn't and they wasted their first pick on a big risk, or just to spite him.
But to say a player can't control their own destiny and decide whether or not to play, no matter how selfish the reason, is against the spirit of the rules is ridiculous. He is dedicating his own time in hopes of getting some entertainment and enjoyment in return, and if he doesn't expect to get that enjoyment because of the team that drafts him, then why should he be expected to waste him time here? Let him go quietly into the night and the league moves on.
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - Admin - 07-04-2017
(07-04-2017, 08:45 AM)RayCobaine Wrote:Yeah but they can just wait it out. eventually people will stop drafting them and they'll end up in Arizona.Then they wouldn't be able to play for the entire season and would be limited in what TPE earning they can do as per the rules, which Clegane is aware of
- Once a player is drafted to a team they must be signed to a contract. If they refuse to sign a contract they will not be able to play in the NSFL. Their only option is to sit out until they have a contract signed.
- If a player sits out an entire season and does not sign with the team that drafted them they may re-enter the following draft. These players may ONLY do activity checks and weekly ITC until they are under contract.
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - RayCobaine - 07-04-2017
I'm not trying to argue, I just think that it's against the spirit of competition. Leagues have drafts for a reason, otherwise all of the good players can just decide to team up. Markelle Fultz could just choose to play for the Warriors, because who wants to play for Philly, amirite ?
Whatever, I'm gonna drop it. It's total BS tho
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - Jiggly_333 - 07-04-2017
(07-04-2017, 09:05 AM)adam2552 Wrote:1) Let's stop pretending Clegane is just a random S2 rookie. He is one of the S2 prospects TPE leaders and is at a premium position. He is a top prospect in this draft, every team in the league wants him.You're not gonna draft him anyway, so stop this.
2) Let's review a real life case of this, the Eli Manning trade. The San Diego Chargers drafted Eli 1st overall despite Eli publicly stating he would never play in San Diego. On draft day, the Chargers traded Eli to the New York Giants for the 4th overall pick, a 3rd round pick, next years 1st round pick, and next years 5th round pick. There are real life comparisons we can look at.
As such, if I were an expansion GM I would draft him. If the Otters don't want him, then maybe I'm stuck with a player that refuses to play. But, as even Clegane stated, if the Otters don't want him he'd play for any team, so maybe I'd still be able to convince one of the top prospects to play for my team. Heck maybe he even tells me who his friends in the Otters are and I try to acquire them instead of trading him. Simply put, the risk would be worth the reward.
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - Jbearly - 07-04-2017
:cigar:
Gregor Clegane pulls the Elway Card - adam2552 - 07-04-2017
(07-04-2017, 12:15 PM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:You're not gonna draft him anyway, so stop this.
Says who?