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Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - ErMurazor - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 01:28 PM)Bengals1Fan Wrote:Wait wait wait...
So essentially, if we're a FA after one season, its a big F*ck you you're going to an Expansion Team no matter what?
BC the old team wouldn't protect me if I was leaving and the new team couldn't protect me bc im not signed. So essentially I resign and get protected, or go to an expansion team. That's not fun.
Congrats to the two GM's...
Legion and a Philadelphia team remind me A LOT of the WFL.
You almost want free agency to start before the expansion draft, then the players with expiring contracts could work out a deal with a new team and that team could protect them for the expansion draft.
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - Shaka - 07-05-2017
Ya that's weird. Free agents are free agents. Expansion teams should hold no rights to those players.
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - Bengals1Fan - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 03:40 PM)ErMurazor Wrote:You almost want free agency to start before the expansion draft, then the players with expiring contracts could work out a deal with a new team and that team could protect them for the expansion draft.Yeah, that's better then just saying screw your goals for next season? I mean to take guys who planned on being able to choose where they played and say nah is kinda rude in my opinion.
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - Admin - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 01:41 PM)Shaka Wrote:Ya that's weird. Free agents are free agents. Expansion teams should hold no rights to those players.All of these topics were posted well before in the GM area. It's a shame nobody saw this side of it
(07-05-2017, 01:40 PM)ErMurazor Wrote:You almost want free agency to start before the expansion draft, then the players with expiring contracts could work out a deal with a new team and that team could protect them for the expansion draft.This may be a better idea, we COULD just flip the two dates, that's not a big deal. We discussed all the rules in the announcement in the GM area but nobody caught this angle of it.
@youngcricket
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - adam2552 - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 04:41 PM)Shaka Wrote:Ya that's weird. Free agents are free agents. Expansion teams should hold no rights to those players.
Even as an expansion GM, I agree with Shaka. Not fair to those players, they signed a 1-year deal on purpose. This shouldn't screw them out of it.
With that being said, I think expansion GMs should be able to negotiate with any upcoming FAs that are left unprotected prior to drafting them. I don't want to draft a guy, then him leave for free agency before I can even talk to him.
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - Admin - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 01:41 PM)Bengals1Fan Wrote:Yeah, that's better then just saying screw your goals for next season? I mean to take guys who planned on being able to choose where they played and say nah is kinda rude in my opinion.We could also simply remove the part about expansion teams auto matching the deal. That way expansion GMs would know the risk of taking a player with an expired deal in the draft, but would still get a couple days before the rest of the league to try and sign that player.
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - adam2552 - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 04:51 PM)Ballerstorm Wrote:All of these topics were posted well before in the GM area. It's a shame nobody saw this side of it
This may be a better idea, we COULD just flip the two dates, that's not a big deal. We discussed all the rules in the announcement in the GM area but nobody caught this angle of it.
@youngcricket
If free agency starts before the draft, wouldn't that change protections? Teams would have to sign a guy, then protect him and leave another player unprotected.
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - Admin - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 01:54 PM)adam2552 Wrote:If free agency starts before the draft, wouldn't that change protections? Teams would have to sign a guy, then protect him and leave another player unprotected.I think I prefer just changing it to this
If players contract expires at the end of S1 they are still eligible to be placed in the expansion draft. The expansion team that chooses them will be allowed to negotiate a contract before free agency and if a deal is not agreed upon the team will have the right to match any accepted free agency offer for that player. If the expansion team matches a contract the player has agreed to with another team the expansion team gets the player with the agreed upon contract.
Expansion GMs would know the risk if they take one of these guys, but would still get time to negotiate a deal before the rest of the league
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - adam2552 - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 04:52 PM)Ballerstorm Wrote:We could also simply remove the part about expansion teams auto matching the deal. That way expansion GMs would know the risk of taking a player with an expired deal in the draft, but would still get a couple days before the rest of the league to try and sign that player.
This is what I thought it was going to be, and I think the best solution. As long as Expansion teams are free to talk contract extensions with unprotected upcoming FAs before the draft.
Expansion GMs Announcement and Details - Admin - 07-05-2017
(07-05-2017, 01:57 PM)adam2552 Wrote:This is what I thought it was going to be, and I think the best solution. As long as Expansion teams are free to talk contract extensions with unprotected upcoming FAs before the draft.Thurs: (7/13): Expansion Protections Announced
Fri: (7/14): Expansion Draft (expansion teams have from now until FA opens to sign any players they chose that have expiring contracts)
Mon (7/17): Free Agency opens
You would have from the expansion draft until free agency to talk extensions and signings with upcoming FAs that you selected in the draft. It wouldn't be fair to give you negotiation rights to every FA out there and there would be zero reason for either of you to select them either.