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Moderation Suspension - AdamS - 02-26-2018
tradition?
Moderation Suspension - Squamish - 02-26-2018
(02-26-2018, 06:30 AM)37thchamber Wrote:While I think the whole thing is a bit silly, it's important that HO is transparent and consistent with rulings. Based on that, I can't really see why anyone is criticising this decision, tbh.Because the rule was not explicitly violated. Terms like "valid reasoning" introduce gray area. A rule with a gray area means that there will always be criticism, unless the rule is written to remove the gray area. An argument can be made that he violated the rule, just as an argument can be made that he did not.
If the HO wants to be "transparent and consistent" with rulings, they must also be "transparent and consistent" with defined rules. Pens considered what he did to have valid reasoning, and unless valid reasoning is further defined within the rule, he's right or at least can be seen as right.
Punishing for violating a gray area, for violating what HO consider the rule to be if the rule is not that in its actual words, is guilty until proven innocent.
Moderation Suspension - JuOSu - 02-26-2018
Lol this is silly. He was trying to help!
Moderation Suspension - DeathOnReddit - 02-26-2018
Are you guys serious? I can see now you will complain about anything. He broke the rules, plain and simple.
Moderation Suspension - Squamish - 02-26-2018
(02-26-2018, 08:50 AM)DeathOnReddit Wrote:Are you guys serious? I can see now you will complain about anything. He broke the rules, plain and simple.Except he didn't. He broke HO's interpretation of the rules - and if there's room to interpret a rule, the rule is poor.
If it's so plain and simple, then please list all things that are valid reasoning and all things that are not, such that it would be agreed upon by 100% of people. If such a thing can't be done, then the phrase "valid reasoning" should either not be in a rule, or should be further defined.
Moderation Suspension - Squamish - 02-26-2018
(02-25-2018, 07:39 PM)tbone415 Wrote:If thats the case then see ya!Head of recruitment, happy to see a new player leave...
Moderation Suspension - bovovovo - 02-26-2018
(02-26-2018, 02:13 AM)RainDelay Wrote:Yes, @Pens should've asked someone, but he did nothing malicious here, and perhaps should have been slapped on the wrist instead.
A short moderation suspension and $2m fine is a slap in the wrist. That's hardly even a punishment
Moderation Suspension - AdamS - 02-26-2018
it has been less than 2 seasons since there was an uproar over someone doing something very similar and NOT being punished, so that's hilarious
HO at the time's argument was even the same as the argument being used here...some vague part of the rule that left an out that made it maaaaaaaaaybe not completely against the rules
Anyway. Back to the line of reasoning that says that he couldn't have known....and that's why he should be editing things.
Moderation Suspension - iamslm22 - 02-26-2018
(02-26-2018, 08:50 AM)DeathOnReddit Wrote:Are you guys serious? I can see now you will complain about anything. He broke the rules, plain and simple.
Retweet.
Moderation Suspension - JuOSu - 02-26-2018
(02-26-2018, 06:38 AM)bovovovo Wrote:A short moderation suspension and $2m fine is a slap in the wrist. That's hardly even a punishment
It's two seasons! In a league that is only six seasons old lol. For a new player two million is a lot too.