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*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - ADwyer87 - 08-29-2018
(08-29-2018, 08:50 AM)ItsJustBarry Wrote:Me? I've always been petty. Couple that with free time and this is the result.out of curiosity, what rule is this falling under?
What you've managed to do is miss the satirical aspect of the article while simultaneously proving the point that the league's rules are subjective based on who is involved.
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - ItsJustBarry - 08-29-2018
(08-29-2018, 12:39 PM)ADwyer87 Wrote:out of curiosity, what rule is this falling under?
HO set the precedent that if a player accidentally updates with too much TPE and plays in a number of NSFL games, there would be repercussions for said player including: being reverted to accurate TPE asap, suspended for the remainder of the season without the potential for any awards, or the ability to claim ACs or TCs.
I understand you are new in the role and merely guilty by association at this point. I presented why these two cases are similar. Would you care to explain why they are so different?
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - Sweetwater - 08-29-2018
(08-29-2018, 12:39 PM)ADwyer87 Wrote:out of curiosity, what rule is this falling under?
The rule book states that all TPE *Gained* must be considered for regression. When you create a player, do you gain 400+ TPE or do you gain 50?
Also, when regressing, do you count the 400+ TPE from Base stats toward the percentage lost, or only TPE gained after the base?
Just because there’s not a specific rule in the rule book saying that this isn’t allowed doesn’t mean you can’t use this to set the precedent that base stats don’t count as earned TPE. If not, I’m theoretically allowed to use my yearly TPE distribution to get rid of my Tackle (which is still at base value) and throw it into Speed.
I don’t particularly care if there’s punishment or not, but a rule should be established from this.
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - 4D Chess - 08-29-2018
Who the hell are all of you people? GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - ADwyer87 - 08-29-2018
(08-29-2018, 11:57 AM)ItsJustBarry Wrote:HO set the precedent that if a player accidentally updates with too much TPE and plays in a number of NSFL games, there would be repercussions for said player including: being reverted to accurate TPE asap, suspended for the remainder of the season without the potential for any awards, or the ability to claim ACs or TCs.
I understand you are new in the role and merely guilty by association at this point. I presented why these two cases are similar. Would you care to explain why they are so different?
I understand that, but precedent is not the same as a rule. I was not thrilled with the original handling of Gibson, but that was a different HO (I believe with the stepping down of Dermot, no one from that HO is in the HO anymore), and a very different time(Las Vegas Legion in their inaugural season)
So yeah, these cases aren't that different, but we aren't bound by precedent, especially ones made by a totally different head office and one that was overall considered a bad decision. Rules can be changed, and so can precedents. Remember the awful RFA tag? That was a rule, but changed because it was really bad. Same with this and same with any rule change we've made to help the league.
(08-29-2018, 11:58 AM)Sweetwater Wrote:The rule book states that all TPE *Gained* must be considered for regression. When you create a player, do you gain 400+ TPE or do you gain 50?
Also, when regressing, do you count the 400+ TPE from Base stats toward the percentage lost, or only TPE gained after the base?
Just because there’s not a specific rule in the rule book saying that this isn’t allowed doesn’t mean you can’t use this to set the precedent that base stats don’t count as earned TPE. If not, I’m theoretically allowed to use my yearly TPE distribution to get rid of my Tackle (which is still at base value) and throw it into Speed.
I don’t particularly care if there’s punishment or not, but a rule should be established from this.
I know that part of this isn't allowed, i was mainly referring to the punishment part
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - Sweetwater - 08-29-2018
Quote:This reminds me of Congress every time one of their decisions comes back to bite them lol
[QUOTE]I know that part of this isn't allowed, i was mainly referring to the punishment part
Fair enough.
I’ll end my part in this discussion by saying this:
The only way to find out whether or not a rule is a good rule, is to enforce it to the fullest extent every time. Punish the violator, take note of the response from the community, change it for the future.
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - ItsJustBarry - 08-29-2018
(08-29-2018, 01:48 PM)ADwyer87 Wrote:I understand that, but precedent is not the same as a rule. I was not thrilled with the original handling of Gibson, but that was a different HO (I believe with the stepping down of Dermot, no one from that HO is in the HO anymore), and a very different time(Las Vegas Legion in their inaugural season)
So yeah, these cases aren't that different, but we aren't bound by precedent, especially ones made by a totally different head office and one that was overall considered a bad decision. Rules can be changed, and so can precedents. Remember the awful RFA tag? That was a rule, but changed because it was really bad. Same with this and same with any rule change we've made to help the league.
I know that part of this isn't allowed, i was mainly referring to the punishment part
From a GM standpoint, I liked the RFA tag. I haven't really bought into the idea of it being a "players" league where everybody can just have what they want but I understand your point.
Although you probably won't have a rule for every possible scenario, the rules you do have are kind of poorly worded. Not having a rule implemented after the original GibsonGate left yourselves vulnerable for history to repeat itself. Plus, changing a rule or precedent after a violation is pretty sketchy and goes back to my statement: the league's rules are subjective based on who is involved.
Unless we want to open the flood gates that everything which is not forbidden is allowed. Then things around here can get real creative.
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - speculadora - 08-29-2018
So if we set a stupid precedent we can just never change it ever?
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - White Cornerback - 08-29-2018
manchildren
*Bradley Westfield has spent too much TPE - AdamS - 08-29-2018
I can't even use this to make asterisk jokes.
They didn't win any titles.