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Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Laser - 01-25-2020
(01-25-2020, 02:57 PM)Kyle Wrote:Tom Hanks has said the "guilty of Tampering" comment comes from a PM with Dylan Deluxe.That's a violation of privacy verging on legally punishable grounds. HO has made a decision based on evidence available to them. The investigation is concluded and zero evidence was found.
Bex has bragged in the past about how often she DMs Tom Hanks.
I trust that as part of the investigation HO has already or will begin to look at all private messages made between Bex, Tom Hanks, and Dylan Deluxe.
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Hallmonitor_20 - 01-25-2020
(01-25-2020, 01:36 PM)speculadora Wrote:"The letter of the law didn’t explicitly cover the situation"
YKW did the same thing with Virt and both contracts should be disallowed really, but sure, skirting cap rules is cool over technicalities
We brought this up to HO but this loophole is being closed and the contract being allowed like what they shouldve done for DDs but that's a whole different debate that I'm not getting into today.
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Kyle - 01-25-2020
Let me clarify. Tom Hanks and Bex should willingly give access to Ho of DMs made around the time of Tom saying "we're guilty of tampering" and the deleted messages.
If you think zero evidence was found you might want to google the definition of evidence.
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Duilio05 - 01-25-2020
(01-25-2020, 01:08 PM)Kyle Wrote:Let me clarify. Tom Hanks and Bex should willingly give access to Ho of DMs made around the time of Tom saying "we're guilty of tampering" and the deleted messages.
If you think zero evidence was found you might want to google the definition of evidence.
They did give HO access to that server. This entire post is because manic went through every single message.
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Kyle - 01-25-2020
Reread what I said.
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Baron1898 - 01-25-2020
Holy smokes this isn’t Watergate. I don’t think we need to be combing through months of personal messages to find evidence of a tampering charge, based on one screenshot where Tom says “we’re guilty of tampering” if you ignore any actual context.
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - iamslm22 - 01-25-2020
(01-25-2020, 01:36 PM)speculadora Wrote:"The letter of the law didn’t explicitly cover the situation"
YKW did the same thing with Virt and both contracts should be disallowed really, but sure, skirting cap rules is cool over technicalities
also the rulebook technically says the max contract length for <800 TPE is 3 seasons though this has clearly been subject to interpretation throughout league history
Indeed
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Eco - 01-25-2020
I feel like I need to put this disclaimer on top of everything I say these days: Anything that I have said or will say in this post is my personal opinion and does not reflect HO's as a whole.
Rule 1
Contract Maximum Lengths are based by a player's total TPE as follows:
<799 TPE: 3 Years
>800 TPE: No Limit
Rule 2
Players may extend their contracts if they are in the final year of their current contract. A player may NOT extend their contract at any other point.
Rule 3
Old version: If a rookie signs a 1-year contract, they can only sign at most a 2-year extension. (This is the original version of the rule which I interpret the extension part as extension or new contract)
Hence the new version: If a rookie signs a 1-year contract, they can only sign at most a 2-year extension or other new contract. This includes situations such as a 2-year rookie deal with an option on the second year that is used to accomplish the same thing.
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(Assuming the player is under 800 TPE)
- Sign 1 year rookie contract and immediately extend it for 1 or 2 years
- Sign 1 year rookie contract, wait for FA, extend or sing new deal for 1 year and immediately extend it 3 year
- Sign a 2 or 3 year rookie contract with options, opt out after first year, sing new deal for 1 year and immediately extend it 3 year
All 3 of these scenarios are totally fine with the current rules we have in place. Neither bex's nor murtsi's contract violated these rules.
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What DD's contract tried to do is;
- Sign a 2 or 3 year rookie contract with options, opt out after first year, sing new deal for 3 years
which with our current rules is illegal.
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We have been working on getting this rule adjusted so that what I consider to be a loophole(what bex and murtsi did) no longer exists. However it has proven to be quite difficult to put together such a rule without having any side effects. Our initial version of the rule is like a paragraph which isn't good enough to put in motion. So stay tuned for us to work on such things once we are done punishing people and finding people to cover critical sim jobs, because it feels like that's the only thing we have been doing lately.
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Raven - 01-25-2020
How the fuck y`all still trying to talk DD's contract shit right. fuckin hell
Bex Punishment and NOLA Tampering Accusations - Eco - 01-25-2020
To all the people asking about if we took a look at the screenshots;
We have taken a look at all the screenshots DD has presented in that Discord, as well as some other screenshots that were provided by various parties. We also did reach out and talk to the parties that were involved in this situation as we needed information from them. We have included every single piece of information that was available to us before deciding on this punishment.