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Las Vegas Legion Cap Hit and KCKolbe Bet - kckolbe - 10-16-2017

I think the major difference between LVL and Noble is intention. LVL were dealing with GM transition and a new DSFL system. As a result, they made an easy and common mistake. On TPE terms, I would compare it to people who claimed weekly training twice in one week thinking the new season separated them. That was a rule break as well, but all they had to do was give it back...no additional interest.

It is important to discourage cheating the cap, but I also agree that the right way is to make the 50% penalty applicable only to future incidents.


Las Vegas Legion Cap Hit and KCKolbe Bet - ErMurazor - 10-16-2017

(10-16-2017, 03:42 PM)ItsJustBarry Wrote:This is just like driving a car.  You may speed every day and never get caught. You may be speeding with everyone else on the road and be singled out, pulled over, and punished with a traffic citation.  Should you get away with it because every car on the road got away with it?  No, today was just your unlucky day.  You were breaking the rules and you were caught.  Pay your fine and move on. 
Code:
*Source - I have more speeding tickets than many of you have been alive.



Well, this logic is flawed.  There were no punishment guidelines for a player claiming unearned TPE but the HO determined a penalty and enforced it.  Many even said that punishment wasn’t harsh enough.  There was no rule for deleting a user’s posts but someone did that specific action and being punished.  There's also not any rules regarding having secret Co-GMs (really, like WTF?) that play on another team.  Guess what?  Someone tried doing that, and all guilty parties were punished.  Sometimes, the rules won’t be all encompassing and, as I’m sure you are aware, the league will have to adjust and overcome.  If you are caught breaking a rule you should expect to be punished.

The thing is those teams were caught. They received a "punishment." In this scenario I know that a speeding ticket is $1. My brother and my friend both have gotten them. Then I get pulled over and I just got a $500 speeding ticket because they're changing the laws surrounding speeding tickets tomorrow.


Las Vegas Legion Cap Hit and KCKolbe Bet - 7hawk77 - 10-16-2017

Intention was taken in to account.

This was thought to be and is a lenient punishment.

However you can't just say "let them give the money back". The Season is over. The money was spent and allocated.




Las Vegas Legion Cap Hit and KCKolbe Bet - 7hawk77 - 10-16-2017

Also, Statute of limitations is a thing.

Personally I think it would be a better use of my time if I work on balancing other aspects of the league then spend time trying to retroactively apply punishments to teams from seasons past.

Luckily all budgets will be public so anyone can check to see anyone else's budget in the future.




I will say the main reason I'm engaging here because I feel that people might feel disconnected from the HO, their reasoning and their decisions.
I'd rather there be discussion and disagreement instead of people not understanding how we reached these decisions.