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*#Deletegate - DeathOnReddit - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 04:10 PM)Bzerkap Wrote:All in good fun. If you really think I'm bullying you though I'll stop. I'm just joking around
I too am joking.
Or am i? :hmm:
*#Deletegate - Bzerkap - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 03:12 PM)DeathOnReddit Wrote:I too am joking.WOW!! I HATE YOU!!
Or am i? :hmm:
*#Deletegate - ErMurazor - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 02:10 PM)Bzerkap Wrote:All in good fun. If you really think I'm bullying you though I'll stop. I'm just joking around
He's fine, his skin is as thick as his momma.
*#Deletegate - sabills - 08-31-2017
I'm new to this sim league thing, but I've been around forums for 15 years or so, and mods just deleting posts they don't like is generally reason for dismissal as a mod.
If he deleted the comment on accident thats one thing, but censoring what people are saying because they're trash talking your team is messed up.
*#Deletegate - DeathOnReddit - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 04:13 PM)ErMurazor Wrote:He's fine, his skin is as thick as his momma.
Wait a minute. :dbz:
*#Deletegate - iamslm22 - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 03:43 PM)124715 Wrote:It's not your fault that the Hawks have had two TPE-related incidents. It's not an attack on you, or your team. Seriously, calm down.
You're right. I gotta chill out
*#Deletegate - Noble - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 02:04 PM)Kristy95 Wrote:The delete comment post was a joke by me.
Honestly, I have talked to several people and we all thought that the Hawks GM should potentially lose his job over this. It cannot be that the league just accepts GM to abuse their mod powers like that and delete comments. Owning up to a mistake is completely different than what happened. The head office has been very soft in all decisions so far so I am not shocked here either, but honestly, this is ruining the fun of this league and slowly but surely it is annoying. I don't want to spend so many hours of my life on this website when I have to fear my comments being deleted out of nowhere for no reason. What he did was more than just "made a mistake" and owning up to it would be to step back, not to say sorry I was caught doing it.
I'll bring the above up with head office, but I think the loss of a managerial job is very far over what head office would do in terms of punishment. I understand the need for action after multiple incidents though, so I'll see too it that it is addressed.
*#Deletegate - 124715 - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 04:40 PM)Noble Wrote:Delete which comment? As far as I am aware, the conversation is closed on my part. Hendrix made a mistake and owned up too it and not much more action can be taken. There is nothing in the rulebooks about deleting users posts, but a discussion has been had and that's the most head office can do. Completely out of interest, and not sarcastically asked at all, what would you like to see happen to have this handled better?
I'm sick of the way the Head Office has been acting. I feel like they're closed off and have no feel (or care!) for the rest of the league and their opinions. Saying "The Head Office has discussed it" and "The Head Office is working on it" doesn't help people at all. The Head Office needs to start acting like the rest of the league are humans as well. They need to tell us why they did what they did. Right now, it's like five all-powerful users control everything that goes on.
As for this specific incident, nothing about this ok and I don't know why any Head Office member could possibly delusional enough to think it's logical. Yeah, the Hawks have had two major incidents with TPE incidents, and the Hawks GM knows it's true, knows it wasn't his fault, and knows the rest of the NSFL knows that. There is absolutely no reason to delete the post, and I don't know why it happened. It was a gross overreaction. It's also textbook abuse of mod powers.
As for #GibsonGate, the Head Office also sorely disappointed me. They reacted slowly, inefficiently, and - in my opinion - spectacularly badly. Reverting him to 50 TPE made no sense - it was giving a team a free bonus with zero punishment.
The Head Office (as a whole, not the members) have been exuding a holier-than-thou vibe which really gets on my nerves. I hate the way they've worked for these two incidents. Ugh.
*#Deletegate - 124715 - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 05:15 PM)iamslm22 Wrote:You're right. I gotta chill out
<3
*#Deletegate - kckolbe - 08-31-2017
(08-31-2017, 02:13 PM)sabills Wrote:I'm new to this sim league thing, but I've been around forums for 15 years or so, and mods just deleting posts they don't like is generally reason for dismissal as a mod. If he deleted the comment on accident thats one thing, but censoring what people are saying because they're trash talking your team is messed up.
For the record, I was happy for just public shaming. I believe in the power of peer pressure. I offer myself as an example of someone who got a little too invested in these kinds of disputes and suffered only embarrassment and a little abuse. I think that was enough for me, and I think it's enough for Hendrix.
If, however, there is a desire for serious repercussions, then let's try to be reasonable. He's a mod because he's a GM, and while he has acted inappropriately as a moderator, I'm glad he's a GM. He's a good GM, and that is good for the league. There is no "heir apparent" to take over in Baltimore, and I don't want to see the Hawks thrown into chaos over shit like this. I don't want to see a really competitive conference become less competitive over a shit-talking incident. And I definitely don't want to see a team full of renewed energy feel defeated and lose interest. However, I understand the importance of meaningful repercussions.
In the NFL, if an owner broke the rules, there would be a fine, and that's what I would propose. Hendrix gets fined x dollars from his personal account. Similarly, one player has made several "reports" of behavior that are not against the rules. One of those invalid reports was a contributing factor for this incident. I would consider a fine against that player as well.