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*S2 Redraft 93-59 - majesiu - 06-18-2019
I'm back with the series that was planned to be seasonal thing, but other circumstances and my overall limited sim league activity forced it back a bit in time.
Preferably I'll catch up to it one day, especially since following the biggest S1 and almost a 100 people S2 draft next ones were much smaller until very recent fantastic S15 draft. Such delay isn't the worst either, since we now know for the most part which players ended up in HoF, though some still are awaiting theirs induction, because they are not eligible quite yet since they played maximum played maximum amount of season.
Other parts:
S2 Redraft 93-59 Part 1: The Untouchables and worse
S2 Redraft 58-29 Part 2: Fillers of necessity
S2 Redraft 28-21 Part 3: Good and better
In case you missed it: links to S1 Redraft, especially for newer guys, series is rather repeatable, but especially last few parts contain more information about players, including some GOATs that already ended their careers.
S1 Redraft - 137-100 Part 1: Literally irrelevant
S1 Redraft - 99-70 Part 2: The gone before S5 part
S1 Redraft - 69-40 Part 3: First Regression Fighers
S1 Redraft - 39-15 Part 4: It's getting better!
S1 Redraft - 14-1 Part 5: Crème de la crème
Let's remind the rules:
We know about who this article will be about, but how I decided to grade players? There will be 4 factors - 3 majors and 1 minor. Due to the sheer amount of players in that draft (93), please forgive me judgment calls in category number 3 & 4, especially since I'm only around since Season 6 and don't have much knowledge about first 5 seasons. The categories:
- Peak TPE/100 - Top mark was 13,75
- Career longevity - 0-12 score depending on seasons spend in the league
- Career quality - 0-13 the first of judgment calls, basically non-factor is going to be 1 (0 if never suited), 2 was a bit better than replacement level, 7 made some pro-bowl and 13 is HoF caliber player. I tried to be lenient in this category, but once again - I'm not writing a dissertation about particular players, just trying to give a nice window back into S2 draft to have revived some memories, find biggest steals, busts and have something to write about. I put also a lower emphasis on the first few seasons since the low TPE levels surmount to really random results.
- Activity Grade - 0 to 5 score, where 0 equals lack update page, 3 was somewhat active and 5 was always active throughout the career, preferably with some bigger roles within organization or the league
I'll try to write a few words about more interesting players, but more often than not I'll just be using the template I prepared for the occasion. One more note is that searching through these old days wasn't easy and I might have missed some seasons if players position switched for example, for such mistakes sincere apologies and feel free to correct me!
- Some teams passed in the later parts of the draft, so redraft relative change of spot might be a bit inaccurate, because of that
Player name: Pat Pancake - username: @[-Pat17-]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: -5
Overall Score: -3,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 9, Pick: 68Redraft Position: 89 - Change: -21
Player name: Christiano Ronaldo - username: @[-Sanctus-]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: K/P
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: -5
Overall Score: -3,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 6, Pick: 48Redraft Position: 89 - Change: -41
Player name: Luke Luechly - username: @[-YoloSwag420-]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: LB
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: -5
Overall Score: -3,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 5, Pick: 40Redraft Position: 89 - Change: -49
Player name: Brokk Lee - username: @[-BrokkLee-]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: -5
Overall Score: -3,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 2, Pick: 10Redraft Position: 89 - Change: -79
Player name: Tim Pest - username: @[-TimPest-]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: -5
Overall Score: -3,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 1, Pick: 3Redraft Position: 89 - Change: -86
So what this group had to do to receive first ever negative score? Well, if you notice all their usernames are within -name- braces, which is an indicator of banhammer falling upon them. Those are infamous multis of Er, and despite that some of those were successful (Tim Pest won Offensive Lineman of the year twice) I can't put them above any players that played fair and square, even if they didn't play in the league at all. most of them were OLs, which was a huge need in the league, thankfully after S4 rule change came into place that and made that position able to fill with bots, which was a great decision in long run.
Player name: Jack Vanderjagt - username: @[Jack]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: K/P
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 13, Pick: 104Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +30
Player name: Jason Jerek - username: @[Baby_Reggie]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: K/P
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 13, Pick: 101Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +27
Player name: Teez Tobin - username: @[Geh]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: RB
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 12, Pick: 96Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +22
Player name: Santana Moss - username: @[Tyfeld93]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: WR
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 12, Pick: 95Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +21
Player name: Mac Donald - username: @[Honolulublue]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: DE
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 12, Pick: 91Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +17
Player name: Hingle Mcringleberry - username: @[Colombiano]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: LB
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 10, Pick: 80Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +6
Player name: Bernard Forthward - username: @[ImCokeZero]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 10, Pick: 79Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +5
Player name: Domantas Sabonis - username: @[Etolduso]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: RB
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 10, Pick: 77Redraft Position: 74 - Change: +3
Player name: Buster Brownce - username: @[RandomDays]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 9, Pick: 72Redraft Position: 74 - Change: -2
Player name: Jazzy J - username: @[JasieJ]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 9, Pick: 69Redraft Position: 74 - Change: -5
Player name: Thaddeus Bullard - username: @[-ban-]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: DE
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 9, Pick: 66Redraft Position: 74 - Change: -8
First legion pick on the list (also, banned lol).
Player name: Noah Parker - username: @[njparker]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: LB
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 8, Pick: 59Redraft Position: 74 - Change: -15
Player name: Carmel Gibson - username: @[SexualEarwax]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: TE
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 8, Pick: 58Redraft Position: 74 - Change: -16
Player name: Joey Langdon - username: @[Joester09]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: K/P
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 7, Pick: 54Redraft Position: 74 - Change: -20
Player name: Alonzo Charles - username: @[Big Baller Brand]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 50 - TPE Score: 0,5
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,5
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 4, Pick: 26Redraft Position: 74 - Change: -48
A really big group that both never played in NSFL game or earned TPE, which was worrying sign to be honest. Nowadays Rookie Mentor team does much better job engaging and teaching people what the league is about, but it was among big reasons why original expansion struggled and was a bit rushed with all quickly abandoned players here.
Player name: Typical Newenglander - username: @[Red_Staar]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: DT
Peak TPE: 52 - TPE Score: 0,52
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,52
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 12, Pick: 89Redraft Position: 72 - Change: +17
Player name: Jesse Sanderson - username: @[Jharter94]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: TE
Peak TPE: 52 - TPE Score: 0,52
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,52
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 11, Pick: 84Redraft Position: 72 - Change: +12
Player name: Frederick Smith - username: @[The Wall]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: DT
Peak TPE: 53 - TPE Score: 0,53
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,53
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 12, Pick: 92Redraft Position: 71 - Change: +21
Player name: Big Bot - username: @[???]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: DE
Peak TPE: 55 - TPE Score: 0,55
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,55
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 5, Pick: 39Redraft Position: 70 - Change: -31
Player name: Ryan Lecavelier - username: @[Ephemeris]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: WR
Peak TPE: 59 - TPE Score: 0,59
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,59
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 11, Pick: 82Redraft Position: 69 - Change: +13
Nice
Player name: James Lillico - username: @[Lillico24]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: S
Peak TPE: 66 - TPE Score: 0,66
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,66
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 10, Pick: 76Redraft Position: 68 - Change: +8
Player name: Connor MacManus - username: @[veritas]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 69 - TPE Score: 0,69
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,69
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 8, Pick: 64Redraft Position: 67 - Change: -3
Player name: Donovan Maric - username: @[CommunistSweden]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: LB
Peak TPE: 70 - TPE Score: 0,7
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,7
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 9, Pick: 65Redraft Position: 66 - Change: -1
Player name: Gui Worthy - username: @[Guy worthy]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 75 - TPE Score: 0,75
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,75
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 11, Pick: 88Redraft Position: 65 - Change: +23
Player name: Ben Green - username: @[Bgreene21]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: DT
Peak TPE: 76 - TPE Score: 0,76
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,76
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 5, Pick: 38Redraft Position: 64 - Change: -26
Player name: Enchilada Charlton - username: @[mpclardy]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: DE
Peak TPE: 77 - TPE Score: 0,77
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,77
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 3, Pick: 19Redraft Position: 63 - Change: -44
S1 draft had ton of reaches for Defensive linesmans and defensive backs, this is very much the same as picks for Charlton and Green show.
Player name: John Goose - username: @[DRUNKmeerkat]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: RB
Peak TPE: 79 - TPE Score: 0,79
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,79
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 11, Pick: 83Redraft Position: 61 - Change: +22
Player name: Hunter Mason - username: @[hmason91]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: WR
Peak TPE: 79 - TPE Score: 0,79
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,79
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 11, Pick: 81Redraft Position: 61 - Change: +20
Player name: Manny Paz - username: @[protooman]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: LB
Peak TPE: 83 - TPE Score: 0,83
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,83
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 10, Pick: 75Redraft Position: 60 - Change: +15
Player name: Brett Dodggy - username: @[JasonMars]
Position Change: Didn't change (or I wasn't able to track it)
Position drafted as: OL
Peak TPE: 89 - TPE Score: 0,89
Last season played in the league: S2 - Longevity score: 1
Career Quality Score: 0
Activity Grade: 1
Overall Score: 2,89
Originally Drafted by:
Round: 6, Pick: 44Redraft Position: 59 - Change: -15
Okay, this should wrap up the first part, which is unfortunately least interesting as all players either had bad impact on none at all for the league, but it's still needed for completeness to include them. With 60 players left I think I'll split it for 60-25 and 24-1 or something along those lines, I have data gathered up so I should be able to publish rest of the list this week.
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - 37thchamber - 06-18-2019
Roidson the legend technically had more than 50 TPE for a while but ... yeah lol
Also, I thought Jazzy J was also a multi? Can't remember tho tbh. There were...
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...multiple...
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YYYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - iamslm22 - 06-18-2019
Yea Jazzy J is also a multi - we weren't able to initially prove it in the investigation but ER admitted to it, after Adam and I realized
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - iamslm22 - 06-18-2019
Also Maj this is awesome dude
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - PDXBaller - 06-18-2019
John Goose! DSFL legend!
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - ValorX77 - 06-18-2019
(06-18-2019, 01:34 PM)iamslm22 Wrote:Yea Jazzy J is also a multi - we weren't able to initially prove it in the investigation but ER admitted to it, after Adam and I realizedSomeone get a ban hammer and call Head Office.
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - SwagSloth - 06-18-2019
Fantastic stuff. I look forward to the rest of the series.
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - 124715 - 06-18-2019
This is absolutely awesome. Thanks so much for doing it!
I still have the first 7 picks of an S2 redraft somewhere in my drive lol
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - 124715 - 06-18-2019
Also how could you forget Big Bot's username
the legendary loco
TIJ founder but completely inactive and hired a completely inactive co-gm because they were shl buds or smth
*S2 Redraft 93-59 - majesiu - 06-19-2019
(06-18-2019, 11:19 PM)124715 Wrote:Also how could you forget Big Bot's username
Hmm, that'd be because I was months away from joining any sim league at that point probably
