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*S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - Troen - 09-23-2020 With the expansion draft selections now revealed, we can now confidently know what teams need going into the draft. And as a shameless plug, I wrote an article with per-team needs if you need a quick reference. Thanks to @[slate] for writing up the draft order that I'm using here. For quick reference to evaluate depth in the draft, there are ~152 players with 55 having 200+ TPE, so I'll be mocking out the first 4 rounds. The positions of the higher-earning players break down as 1 QB 3 RB 7 WR 3 TE 6 OL 10 DL 9 LB 15 DB 1 K/P I group DE/DT into DL and CB/S into DB since different teams seem to move different players around in different mixes but those positions seem to be able to swap if needed. Round 1 R1P1 (1OA) ![]() Most mock drafts in the point task thread have Jones or LB Guy Fields as Berlin's pick. Field's user r0tzbua is in the Dallas war room, has released a handy tool, and does way better graphics than me (not saying much tbh), collectively making a strong case. Jones' user Swanty, on the other hand, has kept up a series of articles on each week in the DSFL, highlighting top performances. Given the difficulty of chosing between them, I'm going to stick with what seems like the area of greater need and go with Jones as the pick. R1P2 (2OA) ![]() Another 'user more than the player' selection, slate managed to script testing of the sim to an unprecedented (?) level. While I'll conceptually admonish the lack of a license in the repo, I assume any team would be happy to bring Patterson aboard to help get that extra bit of confidence in testing strategies. CB isn't the biggest area of need for the Wraiths, but with S17 CB Leonard entering a second year of regression, they will need a replacement at some point. Getting a top-3 CB in the class and an amazing user resource at the same time seems like a win for Yellowknife. R1P3 (3OA) ![]() As mentioned above, another great user option. S18 LB Howyanow will be in his first year of regression, so Fields seems like a good choice who could end up as a starter in a weaker position. WR Harley Fank as a recreate with a solid track record seems like another possible option after losing S23 WR Matthews in the expansion draft, but he isn't creating media at the same level as Fields. R1P4 (4OA) ![]() Now to be very clear, I like tacos a lot. I had tacos for dinner the day I'm writing this and it wasn't even Tuesday. But that being said, I don't know if I could eat 209 of them in one sitting. Tex Wrecks clearly can, making him the obvious and additionally thematic future to take over from inactive S21 DE Chip Otle. If San Jose actually makes this pick, I will purchase at least 2 (but probably not 209) tacos to celebrate. Also, if anyone doesn't know, 209tacos is one of a couple people who came over from PBE, which would give me more confidence in activity despite the limited ISFL history were I a GM. (Seriously tacos are so delicious) R1P5 (5OA) ![]() The Yeti traded up to get this pick and Tank still being on the table is an obviously sufficient justification. Tank figures to start from day one and quickly surpass S22 DE Sanchez as the second best lineman for Colorado. On top of that, Tank is another PBE import which again gives additional confidence in the selection. R1P6 (6OA) ![]() With gaps to fill on both the d-line and in the secondary and 2 players of each taken, I think the Hawks take note that there are 10 DL players over 200TPE as compared to 15 DBs and select the scarcer resource. With a lot of media posted about the DSFL and an early 7 round mock draft, Crowder's user Asked Madden seems like a safe bet on the activity side. R1P7 (7OA) ![]() DL and LB both had 10 200+ TPE prospects in the draft and LB is the bigger need for Honolulu, so I see them taking Winchester. On a third player and with a stated goal of playing MLB from day one, the proven track record of high activity from the recreate seem like a perfect fit for a team that has only one LB on its roster after losing S22 LB Banks to expansion. R1P8 (8OA) ![]() With only a single inactive RB on the roster and with only 3 higher earning ones available, I can't see Arizona not taking one here even though their other needs at DL and DB are the main picks so far. If one of the top pair of Wrecks or Tank fall I'm sure they'd be tempted, but with those two taken I think they take a solidly active RB who's writing a fair number of articles so far. Darren Pama has nearly the same TPE and also a fair amount of writing, but I took Vermillion's higher TPE and speed as the reason to edge out the other options. R1P9 (9OA) ![]() With LB as their biggest area of need and 2 taken already, I think Chicago sticks with filling the obvious gap. McBobby's user bjbren17 isn't as productive in media as the other two taken LBs, but he did write a deep review of DSFL stats for the draft class. If the Butchers are concerned that he's not the level of activity they want then turning to L’Gazzy Burfict and user y2bobman's more consistent track record of articles could be in the cards, but both seem like solid picks so why not take the higher TPE? R1P10 (10OA) ![]() The New Orleans war room has a strong history of drafting users rather than players, so this seems like the obvious expectation (despite JuOSu not making this prediction for the mock draft TPE task). Toblerone has disdained application of TPE in the DSFL giving a drafting team a lot of flexibility in the case of a position switch. And while OL isn't a major need after trading back for Jimbo Jr. after he was taken in the expansion draft, S18 OL Rubbe will be entering a first season of regression and so a replacement OL makes sense. A position switch to RB absolutely wouldn't surprise me given the age of the existing options, but I could also see waiting to see how the rest of the draft plays out before the Second Line make a decision on Toblerone's role. R1P11 (11OA) ![]() After losing their only human OL and with one off the board already, I think Orange County takes the Kansas City GM here. I assume the GM role is a good sign of activity and Archstone's user GlimsTC does have a couple articles to demonstrate additional revenue options. WR could be another priority, but with fewer high-TPE OL and with one already off the board, I figure the Otters take the OL. R1P12 (12OA) ![]() After losing S23 S Richards to expansion, Crunk ends up looking like a good direction for a replacement. Crunk's user Crunk (heh) has some articles on DSFL power ratings as well as at least one podcast, giving a strong signal of activity. CBs Foster, Triplet, or Gath could also be the pick here, but I think Crunk's solid media production and direct positional replacement earns him the nod. R1P13 (13OA) ![]() Pama's user ztarwarz position switched in the DSFL and I think that demonstartes flexibility and helpfulness that the new franchise wants. With a deep series of articles including rating DSFL prospects, Pama looks to have a great financial future. The Silverbacks and their single S17 RB currently on roster should be helped out a ton by this pick. R1P14 (14OA) ![]() San Jose won't be able to hold on S13 WR Swift for much longer no matter how long they try, so the recreate with a decent but non-max earning track record with the S15 RB Farley Hank seems like a good option. Fank leads S25 WRs in TPE and so seems like a solid option despite not generating tons of media. That's actually a bit of a pattern with multiple WRs this year - Zach Crossley looks to actually be the biggest writer from the receiving group. I'm going with Fank based on duration of track record, but I could easily see the Sabercats going with another of the WRs if they think Fank won't be able to keep up the top earning rate we've seen so far in the DSFL. Summary: RB: 2 WR: 1 OL: 2 DL: 3 LB: 3 DB: 3 Remaining 200+ TPE players: 1 QB 1 RB 6 WR 3 TE 4 OL 7 DL 6 LB 12 DB 1 K/P Round 2 R2P1 (15OA) ![]() With Fank gone after the previous pick, I see Yellowknife to look deeper down the TPE charts to address a position they're currently addressing with IA FA pickup S21 WR Kross. Crossley has a conspiracy-inducingly similar last name but more importantly has consistently been writing ~weekly articles, a level of activity I expect the Wraiths to be happy with. Alex Reed with 1 more TPE or Killian Chambers with 10 more could be fine options too, but I think Crossley's user ajtigger has the clear edge in media production. Reed's a recreate of the retired Apollo Reed and has a historical track record as well, but I give the newer user the edge to liven things up with the spooky Wraiths. R2P2 (16OA) ![]() After addressing a major hole at RB in round 1, Arizona takes the future replacement for S17 DT Masters. Slattery is a good 40 TPE behind the top pair in the class of Wrecks and Tank, but user Punter715 (who criminally is a DT and not a K/P) has done a bunch of writing about players in the draft and also has been tracking DSFL awards, so looks like a great pick on the activity front. R2P3 (17OA) ![]() In round 1, the Liberty take a pick that is going to help but isn't a core need. Rotchburns will help replace their current regression pair of S16 Torenson and S18 Dotson. The one concern about Rotchburns' user SchoolboyShue is that an article series on running back rankings only got the first issue. Rotchburns is the only RB over 200 TPE left, though, and seems the safer option than next-highest Buster Bawlls with 196 and similar media activity levels. R2P4 (18OA) ![]() Gath's player Beefstu409 has articles analyzing draft pick values and has an analytic system to do mock drafts. Additionally, creating a sim testing tool and planning exclusivity to Gath's drafting team could be very valuable for a drafting team. That tool got what looks like a good reception, so I (as a non-tester) could easily be undervaluing what the drafting team would be getting here. R2P5 (19OA) ![]() QuakStak is the second New York GM, so this must be the pick. The only real change here is seeing if the Silverbacks manage to trade down more. In a round with 4 GMs, I think they'll have trouble finding a trade partner, but given the depth of the draft maybe they'll be able to pull something off. R2P6 (20OA) ![]() Another GM gets picked and another team who would like to trade down if possible. R2P7 (21OA) ![]() Another GM pick. Honolulu would shockingly also be interested in trading down if possible, but if they don't then Lavigne will be drafted in accordance with the prophecy. Edit 2: They do have to use the higher (thanks siddhus!) of their R2 picks on their GM and given that they're only 2 apart (21OA and 23OA) I could maybe see them not going maximum effort on the trade down attempt, but any value out of otherwise forced GM picks is value that teams love. R2P8 (22OA) ![]() Arizona's third pick helps with the third big hole on the team in the form of a 5th DB and probably upgrade from inactive S21 CB Quinn. Triplet and fellow CB Foster are both at 236 TPE entering the draft and both started off strong with media. I think Triplet's user Kotasa has kept up writing a bit better, but it's close enough that picking between the two is probably more of a culture fit check than anything analytical. Either player seems like a great option for an Outlaws team seeking DB depth. R2P9 (23OA) ![]() Honolulu addressed LB in round one and they address their other expansion loss with Ruschmann here. User katarn22 isn't quite as productive on the forums as some earlier selections, with a full DSFL mock draft last season was an impressive media start that seems to have tailed off, but Ruschmann's still active and earning. Ruschmann should have a good future on the line for the Hahalua. R2P10 (24OA) ![]() After taking an OL player who could end up moving to any position really, I'm assuming Toblerone stays OL for the purposes of prediction. I think RB is the bigger need, but with the top few off the board I have DeSoto as the pipeline pick from the Norfolk to New Orleans, coincidentally DeSoto's listed birthplace. DeSoto's user Jimi64 started off strong in media with prospect bowl coverage but has slowed down a bit in recent weeks, last posting an article on September 1st. Still seeing plenty of TPE activity (including a first place fantasy finish), though, so I wouldn't be worried on the activity front. R2P11 (25OA) ![]() After losing S18 DE Ocewilder to get S19 CB Beerus back, I have the Otters taking Haywood to shore up their d-line. WR Killian Chambers was also a strong consideration, but I went with Haywood with the edge in higher media production. R2P12 (26OA) ![]() McJimmerson slots in to replace S22 TE Boyd who was lost in expansion. McJimmerson's user UberBJ has been creating media sporadically but with some really fun animations (don't look if you're a Yeti fan). R2P13 (27OA) ![]() As another GM selection, I'm sure the Yeti would trade down if the Sabercats were crazy enough to want to move up, but there should be zero percent of that trade happening since Colorado can't possibly take a player that San Jose wants here. R2P14 (28OA) ![]() After finding a replacement for their oldest player in round 1, San Jose gets a replacement for their second oldest player in round two. Burfict's user y2bobman also has an article series that's been kept up for 5 episodes with the last on the 20th, which bodes well for future activity. Round Pick Summary: QB: 1 RB: 1 WR: 1 TE: 2 DL: 3 LB: 2 DB: 4 Remaining 200+ TPE players: 0 QB 0 RB 5 WR 1 TE 4 OL 4 DL 4 LB 8 DB 1 K/P Round 3 R3P1 (29OA) ![]() With equal numbers of d-line options left than LB and with a first round DB pick bolstering the secondary, I could see DL or LB as picks here. I have Berlin taking Roes here as the remaining DL are a bit lower than the remaining LB in terms of TPE, but that could easily flip. Roes' user Roezam has been solidly active on the media side and while 220 TPE is behind the top d-line options, it's still quite respectable. R3P2 (30OA) ![]() Even though Yellowknife took a WR in the previous round, they only had one active one on the roster entering the draft. Chambers' user charlit has written a couple articles and managed tier 6 equipment in the player's first update, so this seems like a solid pick even if the rate of media is lower. R3P3 (31OA) ![]() Philly needs a kicker at some point and Fencik is the top and also seems active with media writing. The next highest option is a good 100 TPE lower and seems a lot less active, so in a draft where multiple teams need to find some kicker (including Yellowknife in 2 picks), this seems like a reasonable pick. R3P4 (32OA) ![]() I could see Chicago trying to trade down or for future years instead here, but I instead having them making a second LB pick to make sure they have a replacement. Goodman's user ShnarlyDude has been doing a ton of coverage on the DSFL with power rankings and playoff probabilities, so that seems like a solid option to ensure they have a replacement. R3P5 (33OA) ![]() With WR addressed and the top kicker taken, I project the Wraiths to address their d-line. If they have any interest at all in having a human OL then I think Chuck Roth would be a great pick. Given that they don't have one, though, I'm going to go with a replacement for S15 DE Alexander. R3P6 (34OA) ![]() (Edit 1: Misread the row on my pick tracker, oops) Having addressed what I see as bigger gaps in previous rounds, Crossley Reed helps refill for the S23 WR Matthews lost to expansion. Crossley's user ajtigger is another of the media writers Reed's user NylarthePhoenix has a proven track record on a previous RB and should be a solid bet going forward. With S15 WR Nacho Vargo no longer on the roster, Crossley Reed sets up as a future replacement. R3P7 (35OA) ![]() Similar to a couple picks ago, I expect Chicago to still be trying to turn this pick into future value rather than a player. Failing that, Roth should be an improvement over bots even if the Butchers already have 3 humans at OL. Roth has been writing about the Pythons and DSFL prospects so seems like a good choice even if a 4th OL is more of a luxury then a need. R3P8 (36OA) ![]() More defensive backs give more options, and Foster looks like a good option. Foster's user Arkz started off strong in media with breakdowns of the first 4 Pythons games, but tailed off. Foster's TPE earning didn't, though, so I think this pick will still work out well to bolster the Outlaws' secondary depth. R3P9 (37OA) ![]() With a need to back some lines, Rucker or Leaking are both 224 TPE LBs that I see Colorado to be chosing between. Rucker's user LancedJack is a bit more active in posting media while Leaking's user ReverendOReily is very active in commenting in other threads. I figure the Yeti go with the money maker, but this seems like a pick that could easily flip on culture fit or vision. R3P10 (38OA) ![]() The Hahalua seem like they could be a team positioned to meet user speculadora's demand of wanting to be the primary reciver in S26. S19 WR Podolak would clearly be ahead of Holloway now, but he'll be in a first year of regression next year. S24 Tre'Darius J'Vathon is a high S24 earner, though, so seems possibly a wrench in Holloway's plans. The real question is if Honolulu want to - will they consider taking an experienced and proven active user worth possible strife if they can't or won't deliver the WR1 role? I'm clearly proposing that they will go that route, with the idea that a new franchise keystone at WR will be worth it. I figure any team seriously making this selection would have a talk to see if it could work out, but I think Honolulu is one of the few teams that might be able to deliver. R3P11 (39OA) ![]() Walker's user deadlunatic has been writing some solid media about the DSFL and the Otters only have 2 WRs on their roster, so this seems like a good selection for one of Orange County's back-to-back picks. With previous OL and DL selections to address expansion losses, Walker helps shore up one of the weaker positions. R3P12 (40OA) ![]() Orange County has 2 S18 and 1 S19 DB, so this seems like a reasonable place to take the best FootballLeague in the draft. FootballLeague is no Tidwell, but he does have the better name to be fair. R3P13 (41OA) ![]() New York has a pair of WRs entering the draft, but I figure a third to be a likely target. Callous has been earning but not a huge media creator, but I have the Silverbacks taking on position fit. R3P14 (42OA) ![]() With no human OL on the roster, Stallworth seems like a good fit for a San Jose team that lost a TE who contributed in pass protectrion. Stallworth's user Gravtx is another consistent media producer with OL articles and also league introspection which seems like a plausible reason to make this pick over higher TPE option Adam Mellott. Round Pick Summary: WR: 5 OL: 2 DL: 2 LB: 2 DB: 2 K/P: 1 Remaining 200+ TPE players: 0 QB 0 RB 0 WR 1 TE 2 OL 2 DL 2 LB 6 DB 0 K/P Round 4 R4P1 (43OA) ![]() In the 4th round, Rumper's higher TPE earning and early media looks promising for the Wraiths. R4P2 (44OA) ![]() Hoffman wrote multiple articles en route to a 216 TPE total pre-draft, which seems good enough to select for Arizona in the 4th round. R4P3 (45OA) ![]() LB is a bigger need than OL in Philly, so I have tham taking Leaking over OL Mellott. R4P4 (46OA) ![]() As the highest remaining TPE player, Mellott seems like a reasonable option for a Baltimore team entering the draft with no humans on OL. R4P5 (47OA) ![]() With no good kicker options remaining, I have the Wraiths going for another spin on the d-line wheel by taking Thebaw. Between this pick and Cerilli, they should have some good option as a replacement for Alexander. R4P6 (48OA) ![]() With the kicker positions addressed via a recent trade, I have Austin grabbed a TE of the future to plan for a post-Larson universe. R4P7 (49OA) ![]() Honolulu tried to get a human OL in last year's draft, but S23 OL Ajay Krishna didn't pan out. The 3th round seems like the right time to roll the dice again and see if they can find an active earner for the team. R4P8 (50OA) ![]() In the 4th round, drafting to ensure coverage of positions you want to upgrade seems reasonable. Yeboah looks like a solid safety option, so I figure Arizona makes the pick here. R4P9 (51OA) ![]() I could plausibly be over-rating the value of LB as I have the Butchers selecting a 3rd here, but as the player with this highest remaining TPE this seems like a reasonable selection. R4P10 (52OA) ![]() New Orleans seems reasonably set at higher TPE draft options of DE and S, so I have them taking WR Spencer here to give them additional receiving options. R4P11 (53OA) ![]() S Roberse seems like the more media-focused option of the 2 201-TPE options of Robers and Mann , so I figure New York will nab Roberts. R4P12 (54OA) ![]() Mann seems like the less impressive option afer Roberts, but is still a DB with over 200 TPE in the 4th round. I can't imagine that Sarasota is actually unhappy with this selection. R4P13 (55OA) ![]() Even with my prediction of the Yeti taking DT Tank in an earlier round, DE Slayer seems like a great player to nab this late in the fourth round of the draft. User Thiath has a long track record and seems like an amazing selection here. R4P14 (56OA) ![]() Despite lower TPE options at DB, RB, and DL, I have New York taking the top DB option in Jaxon-Waxon. User ConnorM123 has been creating some amazing graphics and so I think this is a pick that could end up with a great result for New York. Round Pick Summary: WR: 1 TE: 1 OL: 2 DL: 2 LB: 2 DB: 6 Remaining 200+ TPE players: 0 QB 0 RB 0 WR 0 TE 0 OL 0 DL 0 LB 0 DB 0 K/P RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - zaynzk - 09-23-2020 A little harsh calling milk a “less impressive options” compared to me, he’s a great guy and an even better teammate But this is a quality well done mock draft imo, I love seeing drafts that go past the first round so that I’m included lol RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - siddhus - 09-23-2020 Great mock. Only thing is for Honolulu’s second round pick, I believe the highest Second is GM pick, not the lowest second. RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - DarknessRising - 09-23-2020 Good read with some very likely scenario planning. Just quickly you have Zach Crossley going twice, 150a and 34OA RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - Crodyman - 09-23-2020 Incredible work, brother! If Gleel goes in the 4th he'll be the steal of the draft, Big steal, woo woo RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - Jimi64 - 09-23-2020 Funny enough I was 24th overall in the DSFL draft too RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - Pat - 09-23-2020 44th overall in the DSFL draft to 16th overall in the ISFL draft would make me feel pretty dang happy! RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - NylarthePhoenix - 09-23-2020 (09-23-2020, 02:58 AM)DarknessRising Wrote: Good read with some very likely scenario planning. Just quickly you have Zach Crossley going twice, 150a and 34OA Yeah. You forgot about Alex too lol. RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - KillaScrilla - 09-23-2020 Damn, not even a 4th rounder. SMH, good write up though. Love these drafts.( even if im not in them.) RE: S25 mock draft (4 rounds) - Troen - 09-23-2020 (09-23-2020, 02:43 AM)zaynzk Wrote: A little harsh calling milk a “less impressive options” compared to me, he’s a great guy and an even better teammatePurely a media judgement - Mann hasn't posted an article since early August while you have a team needs and big board post in September which clearly looks like more active media production and therefore higher cash earnings (which leads to easier equipment purchasing). (09-23-2020, 02:57 AM)siddhus Wrote: Great mock. Only thing is for Honolulu’s second round pick, I believe the highest Second is GM pick, not the lowest second.:| THE rules Wrote:All re-creating General Managers (this includes Co-General Managers) must use their team’s highest second-round pick in the proceeding ISFL/DSFL Draft on their own player.You are correct (and thanks, I learned something today). I'll update that, though I don't think it changes the picks for my mock situation since I don't think it's super likely Arizona would take Ruschmann over Triplet. (09-23-2020, 02:58 AM)DarknessRising Wrote: Good read with some very likely scenario planning. Just quickly you have Zach Crossley going twice, 150a and 34OA (09-23-2020, 08:44 AM)NylarthePhoenix Wrote:Fixed - grabbed the wrong row out of my tracking spreadsheet but meant to have Alex Reed there.(09-23-2020, 02:58 AM)DarknessRising Wrote: Good read with some very likely scenario planning. Just quickly you have Zach Crossley going twice, 150a and 34OA (09-23-2020, 08:57 AM)KillaScrilla Wrote: Damn, not even a 4th rounder. SMH, good write up though. Love these drafts.( even if im not in them.) https://giphy.com/gifs/rookie-numbers-wolf-of-wallstreet-YmQLj2KxaNz58g7Ofg Tracker has you at 135 TPE at the last update. I focused on 200+ players and didn't consider any extenuating factors for players with less TPE even if they were really good factors. That was mostly so that my draft pool way smaller and I didn't have to think as much, so while you have a case as a recreate with a decent bank account, the first filter of overall TPE skipped you and so you didn't get into the conversation even if you should have. I apologize conceptually for my laziness, but pragmatically this draft class is a deeply talented pool and so I'm not that distraught about putting a line somewhere to make it easier for myself. |