(04-13-2021, 06:51 AM)qWest Wrote: I couldn't agree with this more. If we moved the sim times in the league back just two or three hours, we would have a time window that's actually reasonable for all of the US time zones, our European players, and our Australian players.

(04-13-2021, 06:51 AM)qWest Wrote: I couldn't agree with this more. If we moved the sim times in the league back just two or three hours, we would have a time window that's actually reasonable for all of the US time zones, our European players, and our Australian players.

(04-13-2021, 02:16 PM)SwankyPants31 Wrote:

(04-13-2021, 06:51 AM)qWest Wrote: I couldn't agree with this more. If we moved the sim times in the league back just two or three hours, we would have a time window that's actually reasonable for all of the US time zones, our European players, and our Australian players.

Going to play devil's advocate and argue against this one. Full disclosure I'm in PDT.

First off, East Coast obviously has the sweet deal right now. 8 PM is pretty much the perfect time wherever you are, so obviously moving it earlier is an inconvenience for them. This proposal to move it back to 5 PM makes it so that streams start right around when the majority of people are going to be commuting. Speaking from experience, this makes it so that depending on where in the order of games you fall, you might not be able to see your game every week. Not the end of the world, but also less than ideal.

Now moving to the US West Coast, this moves the games from 5 PM to 2 PM. Same thing I mentioned above for the 5 PM slot applies here, so I'm not going to go any further into that. The 2 PM slot, is a major killer for me though. That falls pretty much right in the middle of the afternoon when most people are either going to be in the middle of work or school. It's also too late to watch the games while taking a lunch break. If we move the stream back 3 hours I doubt I'll be able to watch games very often at all, and I'd bet there are other people on the west coast that will be in the same boat.

London/EU gets the short end of the stick, there's no doubt about that. I'm not going to argue that a move from 1 AM to 10 PM is bad for them, because there's just no way to spin that.

Lastly, the Australia time zone. This is another one that I'm not sure makes the stream more accessible. Current stream time is around 10 AM, which isn't ideal but similar to the commuter point I mentioned earlier means that someone working or going to school might be able to see themselves play in the late games since it potentially lines up with taking a lunch break. I can't speak for users in this time zone, but I personally don't see a 7 AM start time sitting well. They do have the advantage in that the "Friday" games would be played on Saturday morning, but for the Monday and Wednesday streams, 7 AM is right about the time people are going to be getting ready for work or commuting.

All in all, to me this seems like it benefits EU users with the tradeoff of being varying degrees of more inconvenient for pretty much everyone else. I don't think we should move all streams back, but like others have said having a rotating schedule might be more of a fair compromise.

(04-13-2021, 02:16 PM)SwankyPants31 Wrote:

(04-13-2021, 06:51 AM)qWest Wrote: I couldn't agree with this more. If we moved the sim times in the league back just two or three hours, we would have a time window that's actually reasonable for all of the US time zones, our European players, and our Australian players.

Going to play devil's advocate and argue against this one. Full disclosure I'm in PDT.

First off, East Coast obviously has the sweet deal right now. 8 PM is pretty much the perfect time wherever you are, so obviously moving it earlier is an inconvenience for them. This proposal to move it back to 5 PM makes it so that streams start right around when the majority of people are going to be commuting. Speaking from experience, this makes it so that depending on where in the order of games you fall, you might not be able to see your game every week. Not the end of the world, but also less than ideal.

Now moving to the US West Coast, this moves the games from 5 PM to 2 PM. Same thing I mentioned above for the 5 PM slot applies here, so I'm not going to go any further into that. The 2 PM slot, is a major killer for me though. That falls pretty much right in the middle of the afternoon when most people are either going to be in the middle of work or school. It's also too late to watch the games while taking a lunch break. If we move the stream back 3 hours I doubt I'll be able to watch games very often at all, and I'd bet there are other people on the west coast that will be in the same boat.

London/EU gets the short end of the stick, there's no doubt about that. I'm not going to argue that a move from 1 AM to 10 PM is bad for them, because there's just no way to spin that.

Lastly, the Australia time zone. This is another one that I'm not sure makes the stream more accessible. Current stream time is around 10 AM, which isn't ideal but similar to the commuter point I mentioned earlier means that someone working or going to school might be able to see themselves play in the late games since it potentially lines up with taking a lunch break. I can't speak for users in this time zone, but I personally don't see a 7 AM start time sitting well. They do have the advantage in that the "Friday" games would be played on Saturday morning, but for the Monday and Wednesday streams, 7 AM is right about the time people are going to be getting ready for work or commuting.

All in all, to me this seems like it benefits EU users with the tradeoff of being varying degrees of more inconvenient for pretty much everyone else. I don't think we should move all streams back, but like others have said having a rotating schedule might be more of a fair compromise.