(12-04-2018, 07:14 PM)bovovovo Wrote:1) Your punishment was actually 1/2 of what numbers was other than the fine, for the exact reasons you listed
2) Numbers used the same argument, there’s precedence here
3) I agree we should have talked to you before hand, and in the future we will be sure to do that as per due diligence. I think the reason no one did in this case was because this is such a open and shut case... you knew the results and posted a mock... kinda black and white ya know. That doesn’t make it right to not contact you, so you’re right, someone should have talked to you ahead of time. I’ll gladly F off but I’m also the only HO having a discourse with you and others about the decision. I don’t want HO to be making decisions behind closed doors and then never explaining their thought processes ya know?
1/2? We both lost two seasons of mock if I read correctly.
It might have been the same argument, but because there was more discussion in my post than his, it's easier to see how consistently I only used what a normal user could know. That consistent refusal to even somewhat include war room info should be taken into account. Also, the fact that mine was public, to the whole league, not just to teammates I wanted to hook up.
...okay. Yeah, if you refused to discuss it I'd have hammered you for that, so I did put you in a no-win there. But yes, you should have reached out. It would have made for a fairer, more complete investigation and just been courteous. And given that I believe you believe I had no harmful intentions and that this wasn't an urgent matter, courtesy was warranted. When I fell asleep, the only leaking consequences I had to worry about resulted from a thin sock.
I think some of your biggest points would have stopped before they started had you contacted me and seen the discord post days before the pre-draft. That, along with some of the other points I made, I think really put this in a different light.
So, thank you for making an attempt to own up to it and explain the logic. I don't want to stay mad at you. I respect and even like you. But waking up to this, and having it come from someone I respected and liked, made this a pretty shitty day, and I hope something is learned from that.
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