(11-09-2017, 04:01 PM)pulsedk Wrote:So, I didn't want to comment on this thread because I'm a new player and don't know of much of the previous drama that has occurred. But this post irritated me a bit.
"Archon stated multiple times that he gets his enjoyment by stirring up drama."
So if somebody says "I get my enjoyment from being a dick to others!" they can then be a dick? This seems like an either poorly worded or poorly thought out statement. Just because that's how somebody gets their enjoyment doesn't make it okay.
"Your team could have easily rolled with the punches like Er does"
So because one person handles these jokes well, everybody should right? Now I'm not saying that no trash talk should be allowed and we should all be bff's, because frankly I don't get offended by words on the internet, but if a group of players are getting upset and quitting due to one player being a d-bag, maybe the HO should step in. For a league that wants players to have fun, telling a bunch of people, "Handle it like ER" seems counter productive. Also, if ER came out one day and said "all of the rigging jokes actually bother me and they are making me want to quit" would you tell him to handle it like old ER. No, you wouldn't.
"The only change that I think the HO could have done better is explain why your reports weren't valid"
This just seems douchey. Especially after several people quit over the Archon situation. Apparently, if people quit, their reports may have been valid, no?
Again, I don't mean for this to be a personal attack. Just my opinions on the words you used. Maybe I misunderstood or just don't get the whole situation, just my two cents.
Not offended by this. I don't think think everyone should handle jokes the same way.
However, I don't believe I was HO at the time that this happened. If I was, I don't think HO was aware that archon's actions was getting other players to quit.
How would the HO know that players are going to quit when Iamslm reports archon for "obvious trolling"?
Archon was also a very polarizing player. Some people loved him, and some people hated him. He liked stirring up drama but it wasn't always at someones expense. Often he would make fun of himself, like using an insane sig that loco made for him, or outting his player as gay in the most insane way possible. We talked about him on the Sabercats and half of us wanted to draft him and the other half preferred not having him as a teamate.
Anyways, we don't really need to continue talking about Archon.
Saying "Well Archon could say whatever he wanted so I can too!" This doesn't fly because guess what, leadership changes, opinions change. Also, I still don't think Archon crossed a line, however if he did, this wasn't telegraphed well enough to fix the situation.
This is why we had the bullying/harassment announcement. We are trying to prevent these things from happening in the future.
I can't change the past, I can only help make a better future. This is why I was trying to explain to Iamslm to tone it down from how he was attacking a specific user which happened very recently and to explain what is ok and what is not ok.
