Baltimore - Las Vegas Trade (7/8/17)

[124715]

Not sure what is interesting. Vegas gets a early head start, Philadelphia is set back by the poor talent pool from the expansion draft due to allowing trades AND still getting to pick players from those teams.

What's interesting is S3 and beyond . It's the win-now vs. the rebuild.

[adam2552]

What's interesting is S3 and beyond  . It's the win-now vs. the rebuild.

The argument isn't that we are taking two different approaches, it's that making these trades prior to expansion draft diluted the expansion draft to the point where it's a meaningless exercise in picking inactive players. They could have made all these trades after the expansion draft, however made the conscious decision to undermine the expansion draft, and the leagues intent, to make these trades prior to the expansion draft.

[Stormblessed]

Man. You guys whine a lot.

[adam2552]

Man. You guys whine a lot.

Great insight. This is one of those comments that is destined to drive the discussion forward. Excellent work, keep it up...

[ADwyer87]

you guys are REALLY gonna love monday.....

[Stormblessed]

Great insight.  This is one of those comments that is destined to drive the discussion forward.  Excellent work, keep it up...

Man. You're in here bitching about how it's not fair for the Legion to make all these moves when you're both playing under THE SAME RULES. He doesn't have an advantage over you. He doesn't have a head start. He doesn't have any extra picks. He doesn't have any extra money.

I really don't understand the complaints. It's not like they are operating under different rules? Are you honestly saying you haven't engaged in trade talks? You haven't tried to acquire a player?

If i'm a free agent and I'm watching this unfold, I see one GM complaining and bitching about how he's getting screwed under universal rules, and I see one GM who is using those rules THAT HE DIDN'T MAKE to build a strong team in week one. Which would you choose?

The only reason Las Vegas is getting raked over the coals here is because they're doing a better job at playing the game.

[RavensFanFromOntario]

I think we need a salt emoji for everybody in here, including me :lol:

[TheWoZy]

:old:

[adam2552]

Man. You're in here bitching about how it's not fair for the Legion to make all these moves when you're both playing under THE SAME RULES. He doesn't have an advantage over you. He doesn't have a head start. He doesn't have any extra picks. He doesn't have any extra money.

I really don't understand the complaints. It's not like they are operating under different rules? Are you honestly saying you haven't engaged in trade talks? You haven't tried to acquire a player?

If i'm a free agent and I'm watching this unfold, I see one GM complaining and bitching about how he's getting screwed under universal rules, and I see one GM who is using those rules THAT HE DIDN'T MAKE to build a strong team in week one. Which would you choose?

The only reason Las Vegas is getting raked over the coals here is because they're doing a better job at playing the game.

I never said it wasn't fair. I never said it was against the rules. I never said they had any advantage over me. I'm not bitching or complaining.

I have engaged in trade talks, but I always mentioned that I would be shelving any deals until after expansion. To reiterate what I've said in the post already, Las Vegas is knowingly shooting themselves in the foot by diluting the expansion player pool. If a potential free agent would rather play for a team that knowingly puts itself at a competitive disadvantage then so be it, I won't stop them.

I think that though, most of the people in this league agree with what I'm saying. In fact, the only people who have said anything to the contrary are Legion players and soon to be Legion players. You guys have your little team over there, have fun with it.

[RavensFanFromOntario]

I never said it wasn't fair.  I never said it was against the rules. I never said they had any advantage over me. I'm not bitching or complaining.

I have engaged in trade talks, but I always mentioned that I would be shelving any deals until after expansion.  To reiterate what I've said in the post already, Las Vegas is knowingly shooting themselves in the foot by diluting the expansion player pool.  If a potential free agent would rather play for a team that knowingly puts itself at a competitive disadvantage then so be it, I won't stop them.

I think that though, most of the people in this league agree with what I'm saying.  In fact, the only people who have said anything to the contrary are Legion players and soon to be Legion players.  You guys have your little team over there, have fun with it.

I think people are saying I'm a bit of a dick for doing it, or it shouldn't have been allowed, not that I'm dumb for doing so... :shrug: