Definitely appreciate getting a bit of an inside look at this. Just want to set the record straight on a few things here:
So I was the one interacting with steel, and I want to say that the reason we were dismissive was because he entered his strats in the incorrect order, and as such it wasn't caught to be corrected when simming. To be clear, the color was changed to red as regulation states, but because the listing of LWR/RWR/Slot was not in the correct order it did not get changed. Ultimately I felt that it wasn't 100% the fault of the simmer, and some fault should be placed on steel for not following the template. Whether that is fair or not is up to you.
Was I a bit dismissive? Sure. But I thought I was being respectful and tried to put what was a simple mistake behind us. What was returned to me were accusations of being lazy and incompetent, which I again tried to take the high road with. That didn't work so well.
What I know for sure is that this was the last straw for him - he had mentioned earlier (when our simmer asked him about not seeing any changes despite things being in red because again, they were out of order) that if he saw the file was incorrect after the game he would quit. Which he did. I can't blame him - people have been ragging on Chicago for a long time now and, in my opinion, quite unfairly. That can take a toll, and if steel feels it's better for him to leave the league, more power to him.
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I just want to say that through the last 24 hours (steele quit about 1am last night central time) we've received nearly a dozen messages/applications for the Chicago job. Seeing as to some extent we're stuck picking the new GM, we're going to take a bit of time discussing it. I was planning on reaching out to you guys actually (you guys specifically being @CDub2 and @Jiggly_333 since you are in the war room afaik?) to hear your thoughts and the team's opinions as to what is going on and how to move forward, but IRL thesis work got in the way and I apologize for that - please hit me up so we can talk!
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Okay now taking off the HO hat and opinion-ing on other stuff
I know this will come off as insulting and patronizing, but I was on the other side of the fence earlier this season - I genuinely thought Chicago had a play at the playoffs and if just a few games went their way, they'd sneak in as a 3 or even 2 seed. I even made a bet on it, since I was reasonably convinced that it could happen. Heck, in like 30-40% of season simulations I did around W4, Chicago made the playoffs.
ALSO, I spent a long time on the worst team of all time. I'm still there. The Colorado Yeti have a history of just being baaaad. And man oh man did it bother me to see people saying they'd come right in and suddenly fix all the problems.
I find myself agreeing and disagreeing here - on one hand it worked for Las Vegas. On the other hand, I found myself refusing to relocate Colorado because I wanted to bring a dead franchise back, stigma be damned. I don't know what the best option for the Butchers is, and I could certainly get behind a rebrand if the opportunity presents itself, but ultimately that is up to the team and its management.
(03-29-2020, 12:41 AM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:Pretty much, Steel's problem involved the fact that our strats weren't inputted properly and there were some HO members that were dismissive about it. I don't want to get into the legitimacy of what he was talking about because strats are something I'm completely out of my depth about. What I do know is that there were a couple of people in GM chat being a dick about it and Steel couldn't take it anymore. This, compounded by the fact that the entire league seems to love talking about how shit this team is, just made him press the eject button.
So I was the one interacting with steel, and I want to say that the reason we were dismissive was because he entered his strats in the incorrect order, and as such it wasn't caught to be corrected when simming. To be clear, the color was changed to red as regulation states, but because the listing of LWR/RWR/Slot was not in the correct order it did not get changed. Ultimately I felt that it wasn't 100% the fault of the simmer, and some fault should be placed on steel for not following the template. Whether that is fair or not is up to you.
Was I a bit dismissive? Sure. But I thought I was being respectful and tried to put what was a simple mistake behind us. What was returned to me were accusations of being lazy and incompetent, which I again tried to take the high road with. That didn't work so well.
What I know for sure is that this was the last straw for him - he had mentioned earlier (when our simmer asked him about not seeing any changes despite things being in red because again, they were out of order) that if he saw the file was incorrect after the game he would quit. Which he did. I can't blame him - people have been ragging on Chicago for a long time now and, in my opinion, quite unfairly. That can take a toll, and if steel feels it's better for him to leave the league, more power to him.
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(03-29-2020, 12:41 AM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:We continue to try and put plans together until we realize that HO has told us nothing so far. The only response I'd gotten is that they might be thinking of bringing in a completely new GM.
(03-29-2020, 12:41 AM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:I've tried speaking with the team, but it's hard to say anything definitive about the future without any communication from HO.
I just want to say that through the last 24 hours (steele quit about 1am last night central time) we've received nearly a dozen messages/applications for the Chicago job. Seeing as to some extent we're stuck picking the new GM, we're going to take a bit of time discussing it. I was planning on reaching out to you guys actually (you guys specifically being @CDub2 and @Jiggly_333 since you are in the war room afaik?) to hear your thoughts and the team's opinions as to what is going on and how to move forward, but IRL thesis work got in the way and I apologize for that - please hit me up so we can talk!
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Okay now taking off the HO hat and opinion-ing on other stuff
(03-29-2020, 12:41 AM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:All the articles on "How I'd Fix Chicago" are insulting and patronizing.
I know this will come off as insulting and patronizing, but I was on the other side of the fence earlier this season - I genuinely thought Chicago had a play at the playoffs and if just a few games went their way, they'd sneak in as a 3 or even 2 seed. I even made a bet on it, since I was reasonably convinced that it could happen. Heck, in like 30-40% of season simulations I did around W4, Chicago made the playoffs.
ALSO, I spent a long time on the worst team of all time. I'm still there. The Colorado Yeti have a history of just being baaaad. And man oh man did it bother me to see people saying they'd come right in and suddenly fix all the problems.
(03-29-2020, 12:41 AM)Jiggly_333 Wrote:And the belief that a rebrand will help the team. That's just a fucking coat of paint. The "stigma" around the Butchers will be around whatever team would take its place.
I find myself agreeing and disagreeing here - on one hand it worked for Las Vegas. On the other hand, I found myself refusing to relocate Colorado because I wanted to bring a dead franchise back, stigma be damned. I don't know what the best option for the Butchers is, and I could certainly get behind a rebrand if the opportunity presents itself, but ultimately that is up to the team and its management.
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