I did not think for a second that I would need to add caveats that precluded the times before we actually talked about expansion but apparently I should have considered the s2 expansion.
I did look at rosters. It's literally up front, with numbers. I even noted how many ia's and older players each team had while taking care to paint the most stark picture possible with the most bloated requirements possible. It's not enough to require a minimum of 2-3 per season for each team every season. It just isn't.
And the 307 activity checks were during new year's week. It and its two previous (ie the week of christmas to new years) represented the 3 lowers AC totals since July. Treating the lowest point in 6 months as a high point isnt accurate.
I did look at rosters. It's literally up front, with numbers. I even noted how many ia's and older players each team had while taking care to paint the most stark picture possible with the most bloated requirements possible. It's not enough to require a minimum of 2-3 per season for each team every season. It just isn't.
(01-20-2021, 01:44 AM)Amidships Wrote: Some quick math...My concern for filling the DSFL is less than others because its a league who's only role is to fill the ISFL and its own population isn't important. Especially as the majority by far of the DSFL players you counted are actually drafted ISFL players already. 75 currently drafted ISFL players are sitting in the DSFL as of when I wrote this article. If the ISFL had that much trouble filling its roster, we wouldn't have 75 ISFL players in the DSFL. That's an insane amount. Slightly over 5 per team on average.
315 players updated in the most recent update. That's enough people to support 15.75 teams of 20 players each or 19.69 players per team in a 16 team league.
- Keep in mind that everyone was HOUNDED to update last week so that their player shows up in the new sim, so this should be a good metric of how many players are currently active. We also have to assume there are a few less active people, because players got updated that aren't actually active; ISFL GMs had to post builds for their IAs.
In the last month, 348 players have updated. That's enough to support 17.4 teams of 20 players each or 21.75 players per team in a 16 team league.
- Some of these players may already be retired and the user double counted due to having recreated within the past month. We have to assume it's slightly less than these numbers.
My biggest concern?
I am counting both ISFL and DSFL players in the above counts.
We can't even fill a 16 team league using every single player that updated on January 16th, let alone fill a 16 team ISFL and an 8 team DSFL.
I don't know of any historical data for "most updates at once", but the only hard data I have is a comment I made back in June in the ISFL Discord server: https://discord.com/channels/31738865799...8001494137
307 people updated in the most recent update back then. In the most pushed for update ever we can only improve by 8 updates? I think we need to look at finding new sources of recruitment before we can even consider moving in this direction.
And the 307 activity checks were during new year's week. It and its two previous (ie the week of christmas to new years) represented the 3 lowers AC totals since July. Treating the lowest point in 6 months as a high point isnt accurate.
(01-20-2021, 02:00 AM)r0tzbua Wrote:arent prospect bowls usually played at a lower speed for the benefit of new folks?(01-20-2021, 01:07 AM)AdamS Wrote:(01-19-2021, 11:48 PM)excelsior Wrote: Something to think about. This league started with 6 teams total. That's just 3 games. No DSFL. Now we have 14 teams, and borderline expanding to 16. That's 8 games per night. Something to start thinking about is how sustainable it is to stream every single game. Might not be practical. Along with the DSFL that's a lot to ask for volunteers to give up each night.at about 45 minutes or so currently, we still have one of the shorter sim day time periods compared to other leagues
and thats before we consider the possibility of bye weeks
That's with the old sim, if you take a look at the new sims for the Prospect Bowl it will take quite longer.
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