06-19-2021, 11:01 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2021, 11:34 AM by shadyshoelace.)
(06-19-2021, 04:59 AM)Swanty Wrote: We will try to point to other cases to justify why a certain level of punishment is appropriate, but we won't hesitate to deviate from it if there are differences in the exact nature of the case, which there almost always is.
Hi Swanty, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to people's concerns in-depth, even if I still find most of the answers frustrating. Since you've mentioned it, could you point to the differences in the exact nature of the Noble case and this case that led to such drastically different outcomes? To me, they look virtually identical save for the amount of TPE cheated. At the very least, can you explain why HO felt that the Kendrick and TB punishments were more relevant precedent to cite, despite those both being very, very different instances of cheating by users not abusing any league power and gaining much less TPE (not to mention the fact that they received 2x TPE fines and faded did not)?
Best I can tell, the Noble punishment cited here was his first offense in the NSFL not second as you previously claimed, as it's the third punishment in the punishment forum, neither of the previous two implicate Noble, and the thread refers to his checkered past in other leagues but has no mention of any past issues in this league.
Furthermore, as Z-Whiz has mentioned above, I have a hard time buying 10+ instances of cheating spanning several seasons as a "first offense" - just the first time he's been caught after many offenses. Those are not the same thing.
Edit: for further precedent for TPE manipulation punishments that garnered both a loss of credit for the given task and 2x TPE fines (functionally 3x the loss faded received proportionally), I'll handily link for you two additional punishments similar to Kendrick's for PT plagiarism.