Finally going to properly comment on this a day late, as I was moving all day yesterday and by the time I was properly set up it was Jeopardy time. As one of the people who was in the know of it I feel like I need to post about it. Even if I am not held up to higher esteem. Just a joke no worry.
Going to say that all my feelings can basically be summed up by Infin's original post about the matter. Jiggly came to me to tell his new wacky plan and asked if it was posible. I checked the rulebook for him and as long as his older account was no longer considered active or had an actively playing player on it, this was basically legal for him to do. That is all that mattered in that situation to me.
Now was it wrong of me to keep this information to myself? Eh the morals are debateable, but at the end of the day I do not feel like I did anything wrong keeping it to myself. I did not use the information to stir any draft decisions regarding Jiggly. If we ended up drafting him I would have continiud to interact with them as if I did not know them. It's kinda sad the way people have been talking about Philly/London and the fact that they drafted him. While I absolutely get the reasong that it feels like you are being lied to who you got in the draft. We are kinda on the internet where everyone has their anonymity if they choose and therefor can act or be someone they are not. If Jiggly had played out their players entire career and then revealed who they were I bet people would be less annoyed, because they just got to know a pleasent side of Jiggly.
As for the stigma around Jiggly, it's hard to ignore that both ends have done their fair share of damage to reputation. Jiggly hasn't always done the smartest things, but I don't think anyone has. On the otherside his name has been memed and spoken poorly about to hell and back. I have seen enough people say that they have personally never interacted with Jiggly, but through mouth to mouth just do not want to interact with him. This has caused Jiggly to be put in a position where enjoying sim leagues is hard. He went undrafted basically twice in a row in the SHL recently. I think it is the issue of a persons username, as am guilty of doing the same. Going through the draft list, picking out names and being like, oh I have interacted once with this person once and didnt like it. DND this son of a gun. Jiggly's name just holds a lot of weight to it and who's fault that is we can debate to the end of the world about. I think in the past Jiggly has been very passionate about things (i.e. Chicago/Baltimore) and made some mistakes, but just cannot outrun them with the constant meming and shit talking. So I can't blame a person for wanting a fresh start and being able to try and enjoy a sim league again. Could Jiggly have stayed on his OG account, held his head down, tried to just focus on media and paying attention to what he said in which chats? Maybe, but I can also see the stigma just following him for a long time.
Lastly the new multi rules. I am going to pull a recent example from this thread and that is Stego saying something about 'revenge accounts'. I have also seen this been said in other places. It is just a very weak argument in favour for them. People know what VPNs are in 2021. If people really want to be cunts and recreate new accounts to try and trick teams into drafting them so they can instantly retire afterwards, they can. This also kinda goes for the general idea of not wanting toxic people to be able to just show up and act all friendly. It happens. Look at with zamir/excelsior recently. If someone really wants to be a cunt they will. I get the idea behind the rule, but I also just think its so shit. I guess it has to be in place to cover butts. As now what Jiggly & YTB did is truely illegal and someone can't point to that technicality and say, hey it's legal. It just hurts people who generally want a new start at the league without previous stigma. And the people who really want to do bad things can still do it.
Oh well, this are just my ramblings regarding the topic. tdlr: Rule is stupid, but needed to cover butts I guess. #JusticeForYTB, got ruled a multi, but wasn't.
and before someone makes a joke regarding 'stigma', stigma nuts in yo face bitch.
Going to say that all my feelings can basically be summed up by Infin's original post about the matter. Jiggly came to me to tell his new wacky plan and asked if it was posible. I checked the rulebook for him and as long as his older account was no longer considered active or had an actively playing player on it, this was basically legal for him to do. That is all that mattered in that situation to me.
Now was it wrong of me to keep this information to myself? Eh the morals are debateable, but at the end of the day I do not feel like I did anything wrong keeping it to myself. I did not use the information to stir any draft decisions regarding Jiggly. If we ended up drafting him I would have continiud to interact with them as if I did not know them. It's kinda sad the way people have been talking about Philly/London and the fact that they drafted him. While I absolutely get the reasong that it feels like you are being lied to who you got in the draft. We are kinda on the internet where everyone has their anonymity if they choose and therefor can act or be someone they are not. If Jiggly had played out their players entire career and then revealed who they were I bet people would be less annoyed, because they just got to know a pleasent side of Jiggly.
As for the stigma around Jiggly, it's hard to ignore that both ends have done their fair share of damage to reputation. Jiggly hasn't always done the smartest things, but I don't think anyone has. On the otherside his name has been memed and spoken poorly about to hell and back. I have seen enough people say that they have personally never interacted with Jiggly, but through mouth to mouth just do not want to interact with him. This has caused Jiggly to be put in a position where enjoying sim leagues is hard. He went undrafted basically twice in a row in the SHL recently. I think it is the issue of a persons username, as am guilty of doing the same. Going through the draft list, picking out names and being like, oh I have interacted once with this person once and didnt like it. DND this son of a gun. Jiggly's name just holds a lot of weight to it and who's fault that is we can debate to the end of the world about. I think in the past Jiggly has been very passionate about things (i.e. Chicago/Baltimore) and made some mistakes, but just cannot outrun them with the constant meming and shit talking. So I can't blame a person for wanting a fresh start and being able to try and enjoy a sim league again. Could Jiggly have stayed on his OG account, held his head down, tried to just focus on media and paying attention to what he said in which chats? Maybe, but I can also see the stigma just following him for a long time.
Lastly the new multi rules. I am going to pull a recent example from this thread and that is Stego saying something about 'revenge accounts'. I have also seen this been said in other places. It is just a very weak argument in favour for them. People know what VPNs are in 2021. If people really want to be cunts and recreate new accounts to try and trick teams into drafting them so they can instantly retire afterwards, they can. This also kinda goes for the general idea of not wanting toxic people to be able to just show up and act all friendly. It happens. Look at with zamir/excelsior recently. If someone really wants to be a cunt they will. I get the idea behind the rule, but I also just think its so shit. I guess it has to be in place to cover butts. As now what Jiggly & YTB did is truely illegal and someone can't point to that technicality and say, hey it's legal. It just hurts people who generally want a new start at the league without previous stigma. And the people who really want to do bad things can still do it.
Oh well, this are just my ramblings regarding the topic. tdlr: Rule is stupid, but needed to cover butts I guess. #JusticeForYTB, got ruled a multi, but wasn't.
and before someone makes a joke regarding 'stigma', stigma nuts in yo face bitch.