S22 DSFL Rules Summit Results

[terriblehippo]

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Hello everyone,

The S22 DSFL Rules Summit has recently come to a close.  GMs and Head Office members were encouraged to submit proposed changes to the rulebook, and those same individuals then voted on the proposed changes.  With 13 eligible voters (one representative from each DSFL team and five Head Office members), a proposal needed 10 "yes" votes in order to pass.

Below is the full list of proposed rule changes and the final voting results for each.

1. Add an MVP for the playoffs.
8-5

2. Punish GM chat leaks for things that have been explicitly asked to not be shared outside of the server.
"Example: Portland mockup logo."
5-8

3. Reintroduce the limit on DSFL eligibility, meaning that players can only spend a maximum of three (3) seasons playing in the DSFL after the time of their NSFL draft. In addition, all non-QB players who are inactive (by the official definition) at the time of their Ultimini will lose their DSFL eligibility for the upcoming season, and may not be permitted to be on their teams' depth charts. Should the user return to activity, they regain their DSFL eligible status and may be added back to the depth chart.
10-3

4. Move the deadline for the free DSFL position changes back until the final, end of season update.
10-3

5. Give each position their own positional award.
"So separate DBotY into safety and CB, and DLine into DE and DT. Whichever position a player played more time at for the season is the one that they will be nominated for. The awards committee will do the research to figure that stuff out."
8-5

6. Fix the Pro Bowl by implementing the following changes:

• Remove FLEX voting (have 3 RBs and 4 WRs; the next highest vote getter to not make the main roster will be inserted as OFLEX). Remove DFLEX altogether.
• Make the voting 3 CBs and 3 S.
• Players will be voted based on their position in the TPE tracker.
• OL will be scaled as per the number of active OL in each conference, with no more than 5 OL represented and no fewer than 1 OL per conference if said conference has an active OL user. The scaling should be about 50% (if there are 3 OL then there are 2 spots, if there are 6 OL then there are 3 spots, etc).
• Voting will be done on Google Forms, which will auto-populate with players via the TPE tracker (voters will then select x number of players per position), which will make vote tallying easier.

12-1

7. Tampering rules do not apply to users that are IA below 200 TPE.
"I know DSFL GMs love having IA players, but it is WAY better for the league that these kinds of players come back and create."
2-11

8. Players that are determined to be inactive (according to the NSFL rulebook) by the end of the regular season cannot be nominated for awards or voted for Pro Bowl, regardless of stats, unless there are not enough active players at a position to fill nominations.
13-0

9. Allow tampering of IA players above 200 TPE.
1-12

10. Make "Counting Bot" a permanent member of DSFL GM chat.
7-6

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Proposals 3, 4, 6, and 8 have passed.  They will be added to the rulebook next offseason.

[Buttersqauch101]

Ok who voted against rule 10

[Jo3fish5]

Imagine voting against 10

[Warner]

1 and 5 should’ve definitely passed. I really don’t see what the downsides for either one are. Whoever voted no for those two are on crack.

[ADwyer87]

sad to see 3. It had good potential but was abused. I still wish it was a thing, and hope we dont get active guys like an OwlStrike and a TheWoZy screwed over by the rule like we did in the past. DSFL GMs apparently exploited this rule, this rule was made with the expectation that anyone who exploited it should be out of a job instantly. If we just stuck to that philosophy, it would have been better

Rule 4 is dumb. It directly helps me out, sure. But thats just insane. The whole reason this was put was to help updaters, help NSFL GMs with scouting, and stop NSFL GMs from doing stuff like i'm about to do, wait and change right at the final week. But hey, thanks for allowing me to exploit the rules, guess itll help offset the annoyance this adds in scouting

EDIT: So I got a potential clarification on rule 4, that it means its pushed back to the update at the end of that week. What does this change then? What is the point of this rule vote then? It changes nothing haha. If thats the truth, then I dont understand it. If its something else, I stand by my original statement

[infinitempg]

1 and 5 should’ve definitely passed. I really don’t see what the downsides for either one are. Whoever voted no for those two are on crack.

i mean part of my no vote was having to do more work if they passed

In all seriousness, I think Rule 5 passed in the NSFL. I personally think that since DE/DT and CB/S get switched around a *lot* by GMs (or at least they did back when I was a GM), it's hard to really fairly assess between them. MLB and SLB have significantly different roles (and different stat outputs) in the sim, but we don't separate them. I felt this was similar.

Rule 1 is a factor of scheduling in my opinion. Awards are voted on before the playoffs are even over - it's hard enough to get all the GMs to vote on the awards themselves and adding another thing to cram the schedule would make things more difficult.

[Buttersqauch101]

i mean part of my no vote was having to do more work if they passed

In all seriousness, I think Rule 5 passed in the NSFL. I personally think that since DE/DT and CB/S get switched around a *lot* by GMs (or at least they did back when I was a GM), it's hard to really fairly assess between them. MLB and SLB have significantly different roles (and different stat outputs) in the sim, but we don't separate them. I felt this was similar.

Rule 1 is a factor of scheduling in my opinion. Awards are voted on before the playoffs are even over - it's hard enough to get all the GMs to vote on the awards themselves and adding another thing to cram the schedule would make things more difficult.

In gm chat we did actually talk about how to get around the scheduling part

[AdamS]

sad to see 3. It had good potential but was abused. I still wish it was a thing, and hope we dont get active guys like an OwlStrike and a TheWoZy screwed over by the rule like we did in the past. DSFL GMs apparently exploited this rule, this rule was made with the expectation that anyone who exploited it should be out of a job instantly. If we just stuck to that philosophy, it would have been better

Rule 4 is dumb. It directly helps me out, sure. But thats just insane. The whole reason this was put was to help updaters, help NSFL GMs with scouting, and stop NSFL GMs from doing stuff like i'm about to do, wait and change right at the final week. But hey, thanks for allowing me to exploit the rules, guess itll help offset the annoyance this adds in scouting

EDIT: So I got a potential clarification on rule 4, that it means its pushed back to the update at the end of that week. What does this change then? What is the point of this rule vote then? It changes nothing haha. If thats the truth, then I dont understand it. If its something else, I stand by my original statement

effectively it means that people who do their position switch don't have to play their new position during the dsfl playoffs as they would before this

[ADwyer87]

effectively it means that people who do their position switch don't have to play their new position during the dsfl playoffs as they would before this

but the "final, end of season update" is before the DSFL playoffs, so they would still have to play their new position during then

[Starboy]

8. Players that are determined to be inactive (according to the NSFL rulebook) by the end of the regular season cannot be nominated for awards or voted for Pro Bowl, regardless of stats, unless there are not enough active players at a position to fill nominations.

The awards part was already a rule, but thanks for adding the Pro Bowl on