So as the current DSFL streamer, backup at one point and member of HO i feel like i can offer a lot of "devil's advocate" and general points around this discussion as just food for though. First things first, i don't particularly hate the idea and whilst been discussed before, you have certainly raised a few things in here that have a twist on what has been said before. At the end of the day, the games are the biggest thing we as a league can come together over, and ensuring there is peak interest in the streams should and is something looked at within HO.
Earlier in the season, a discussion came up after i mistakenly entered a stream for later than it should be (daylight savings changed but completely my fault) and brought up the conversation for sim times being changed or even moving fir day streams to Saturday, particularly to help out the Europeans and general Non-USA audience. I don't know if you saw it but I do hope you did, there was a survey that I relaised after discussion within GM chat as to suggestions on how this looks and to get actual tangible feedback, so always know that people around can also champion ideas like this. The TLDR of this tangent, is that the numbers reflected current time as best time for more users, and its always going to be a balancing act around time zones, as well as ensuring what is a low-appeal and applied for area in the sim team, can perform the task at hand.
Now, i think this idea does have alot more feasibility at the DSFL level. As it currently stands, just listening out to the league, there is both complains that the game is too fast to track and that games take too long. I feel like without some drastic changes that were discussed when teh above conversation happened occurred, changing the length of sims particularly for ISFL is not possible. I don't know how much you would have to slow it down to perform commentary, but if it was done it would definitely be added with the type of caveat you explained with it being only one match only. Commentary from what i know was done before, I don't know why it stopped, whether with a staffing change it didn't happen or it was taking too much time with an increase of teams. I also will say that without being in the PBE, i hear compliments for the commentary but more hatrid about their long streams than ours. And again, without even seeing a stream or being a bigger fan of the sport/sim, to my knowledge it is alot easier to commentate baseball (ball pitched, hit or not? If hit, where to?) That is absurdly dumbed down but you can't capitulate what is happening on a football field as well as you can a baseball field, not at the speed we would need to sim games anyways. I always tend to hear that the PBE has alot more statistically breakdown and stats avaliable, which would also help with points to talk about. Not sure how avaliable they are during a game, but currently ISFL would be using those small stat boxes and so even for commentating, it could be hard to really keep up.
That sounds all negative so I will try to talk some positives into it. I think that there is room to try it out again. As the DSFL streamer, i don't think i would be good at it as i don't watch like any NFL games (maybe 1-2 a season) but i think there is possibilities to bring in a job being a commentator, they can go over play-by-play before streams, work out big plays to ensure they highlight them and be a main commentator, with the streamer (myself) adding bits and pieces to help bounce stuff off. Of course, the streamer could also be adapted to be commentator, but that adds another element to their job description that with next to know applications for already, may even more-so reduce it. What would also hinder a full on commentator position is needing to work time-zones with the streamer. For me, Im Australian so sometimes I'm up to 1-2am just waiting for graphics before i can do close to an hour and half of streaming, than have to upload and process. (This is starting to sound very negative again, my bad)
As for the halftime thing, unfortunately would not work currently in the sim, as whilst you could pause the game at half-time and go to bring up the box score, it will show the entire game's score and stats, which of course is spoilers.
The next question that was specifically raised by the survey, that i think something like this would help, is that majority of people are not watching the sims live (as that was survey was focusing on) or only watching their team. The idea of having a special game with commentary and the works would draw interest, and over 16 weeks you would ensure that every team features at least once (could have every team twice if smart). Would it mage a huge difference? Well no way to tell either way unless something like it was done as a tester.
I will leave it here with only two additional things cause i feel like whilst I'm trying to give both sides im just automatically thinking of more negatives and putting this down more than what im trying to, so sorry for that. Firstly, you done this in a way you should not even worry about not fully knowing the process or offending the sim team or whoever. Anyone who writes suggestions like this, in a manner that is calm, informative and not hurling insults, is totally accepted and welcomed. This league is nothing without its people and the HO in me wants to see this league improve to keep up with user's wants when it can. You were reasonable, spoke well and even spoke some negatives/pitfalls about this issue and that's what i love seeing in pieces like this. Secondly, and i've talked to GM's about this, during the off-season i am hoping to release a media piece with a whole bunch of different games simmed at different speeds, to show what we could have and what we would prefer, because as i said earlier on, we can't have both shorter streams and slower games, one of the two has to be sacrificed. Hopefully this would test anyway to find a better balance of both, and maybe show what speed may not drag out a stream but could allow commentator in the form this idea spoke about to occur.
Wow this turned out longer than i expected :')
Earlier in the season, a discussion came up after i mistakenly entered a stream for later than it should be (daylight savings changed but completely my fault) and brought up the conversation for sim times being changed or even moving fir day streams to Saturday, particularly to help out the Europeans and general Non-USA audience. I don't know if you saw it but I do hope you did, there was a survey that I relaised after discussion within GM chat as to suggestions on how this looks and to get actual tangible feedback, so always know that people around can also champion ideas like this. The TLDR of this tangent, is that the numbers reflected current time as best time for more users, and its always going to be a balancing act around time zones, as well as ensuring what is a low-appeal and applied for area in the sim team, can perform the task at hand.
Now, i think this idea does have alot more feasibility at the DSFL level. As it currently stands, just listening out to the league, there is both complains that the game is too fast to track and that games take too long. I feel like without some drastic changes that were discussed when teh above conversation happened occurred, changing the length of sims particularly for ISFL is not possible. I don't know how much you would have to slow it down to perform commentary, but if it was done it would definitely be added with the type of caveat you explained with it being only one match only. Commentary from what i know was done before, I don't know why it stopped, whether with a staffing change it didn't happen or it was taking too much time with an increase of teams. I also will say that without being in the PBE, i hear compliments for the commentary but more hatrid about their long streams than ours. And again, without even seeing a stream or being a bigger fan of the sport/sim, to my knowledge it is alot easier to commentate baseball (ball pitched, hit or not? If hit, where to?) That is absurdly dumbed down but you can't capitulate what is happening on a football field as well as you can a baseball field, not at the speed we would need to sim games anyways. I always tend to hear that the PBE has alot more statistically breakdown and stats avaliable, which would also help with points to talk about. Not sure how avaliable they are during a game, but currently ISFL would be using those small stat boxes and so even for commentating, it could be hard to really keep up.
That sounds all negative so I will try to talk some positives into it. I think that there is room to try it out again. As the DSFL streamer, i don't think i would be good at it as i don't watch like any NFL games (maybe 1-2 a season) but i think there is possibilities to bring in a job being a commentator, they can go over play-by-play before streams, work out big plays to ensure they highlight them and be a main commentator, with the streamer (myself) adding bits and pieces to help bounce stuff off. Of course, the streamer could also be adapted to be commentator, but that adds another element to their job description that with next to know applications for already, may even more-so reduce it. What would also hinder a full on commentator position is needing to work time-zones with the streamer. For me, Im Australian so sometimes I'm up to 1-2am just waiting for graphics before i can do close to an hour and half of streaming, than have to upload and process. (This is starting to sound very negative again, my bad)
As for the halftime thing, unfortunately would not work currently in the sim, as whilst you could pause the game at half-time and go to bring up the box score, it will show the entire game's score and stats, which of course is spoilers.
The next question that was specifically raised by the survey, that i think something like this would help, is that majority of people are not watching the sims live (as that was survey was focusing on) or only watching their team. The idea of having a special game with commentary and the works would draw interest, and over 16 weeks you would ensure that every team features at least once (could have every team twice if smart). Would it mage a huge difference? Well no way to tell either way unless something like it was done as a tester.
I will leave it here with only two additional things cause i feel like whilst I'm trying to give both sides im just automatically thinking of more negatives and putting this down more than what im trying to, so sorry for that. Firstly, you done this in a way you should not even worry about not fully knowing the process or offending the sim team or whoever. Anyone who writes suggestions like this, in a manner that is calm, informative and not hurling insults, is totally accepted and welcomed. This league is nothing without its people and the HO in me wants to see this league improve to keep up with user's wants when it can. You were reasonable, spoke well and even spoke some negatives/pitfalls about this issue and that's what i love seeing in pieces like this. Secondly, and i've talked to GM's about this, during the off-season i am hoping to release a media piece with a whole bunch of different games simmed at different speeds, to show what we could have and what we would prefer, because as i said earlier on, we can't have both shorter streams and slower games, one of the two has to be sacrificed. Hopefully this would test anyway to find a better balance of both, and maybe show what speed may not drag out a stream but could allow commentator in the form this idea spoke about to occur.
Wow this turned out longer than i expected :')
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