(10-16-2017, 09:00 AM)Bzerkap Wrote:[quote author=kckolbe date=1508152020]5) Let's look at a couple of things @7hawk77 said in this thread. I am going to bold part of it for emphasis.
Quote:He still has every right to hit FA or do whatever he wants. If he felt the need to honor the deal, he could easily holdout or request a trade or do whatever he wants. That's on him on we wanted to give him that option.
However, the head office felt it very necessary to show that these types of bets are not encouraged and will not be tolerated in the future.
So, per this ruling, a player may make an agreement with another team outside the forums and see it out? So, basically, you personally stated that this activity IS allowed on this site while also stating you are sending a message not to do it?
Additionally, does anyone else feel the HO is simply deflecting this onto me? By Hawk's own words, I can do WHATEVER I WANT regarding this situation, even specifically listing things that would normally be considered unethical.
I'm pretty sure what Hawk was saying here is that they are nullifying the bet, plain and simple. Everything gets reset to zero, because you are not forced by the forum/betting/HO to follow through with it. However, you still can if you wish.
The potentially unethical avenues that he is listing aren't what he is advocating or encouraging, simply listing. They are things people have done before and more than likely will do again. That's really all he is saying here.
The board can only control tampering in so far as they can prove it, which generally is on the forum or proof provided by offending parties. Hawk is just being realistic here, if you know someone IRL it's pretty easy to word of mouth tamper them to your team with no possibility of proof.
Not calling you out here but I just want to hopefully clarify what Hawk was saying, as I saw it. @7hawk77 please let me know if I'm wrong on any of this.[/quote]
Correct.
For example, during S1. Ethan Hunt was traded to the sabercats. He then expressed interest that he did not want to play for this team and wanted to be traded elsewhere. This was not ideal for the sabercats but he was acting on his own and wasn't influenced by an outside force. This isn't breaking the rules.
Now if he expressed this interest because another GM said "hey come play for us" and did it because an outside force was acting upon him in an unfair manner. This isn't ok. The Varga Cushing bet is an outside force, that resulted in kckolbe being forced to leave against his will. He can still do whatever he wants because he has his autonomy back.
