Disclaimer, gonna do that thing where I split this up into sections.
Completely valid, hadn't thought of that even though I've experienced it myself.
Yeah, sounds like the timeliness aspect was more on the simmers, which Er has owned up to.
Negative. That was about Dermot's post, though that was much later on, so that's on me for saying it was right after.
I didn't PM Hawk. I tagged him in an announcement here. He may have been busy, but he wasn't too busy for seven other posts starting on the 4th, none of which were HO-related. Also, given that it was a PUBLIC post in a rules announcement that had been dormant a while, did not ONE member of the HO see a new post there and decide to check it out?
This paragraph is very confusing. If it had already been figured out, why did he have to ask Ballerstorm?
So, every NSFL game gets watched by HO before it is streamed, but DSFL games are not watched before OR during streaming. And this wasn't a one night fluke. HO is NEVER present in these games (though attendance in general is improving). I think this is a big factor in the "HO doesn't care about DSFL" perception.
(11-08-2017, 02:30 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:First, while discord is a fast and effective way to communicate, it's kind of a double edged sword. I am in 12 different discord groups. I get tagged CONSTANTLY, and frequently the Admin or HO tag is used jokingly throughout the discord channels. But it means that I have trained myself to put off notifications until I have a chance to sit down and address all of them.
Completely valid, hadn't thought of that even though I've experienced it myself.
(11-08-2017, 02:30 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:there were no admin tags until 6:58 pst in the DSFL chat. Followed by a group HO chat that started at 7:00 Pst. Upon seeing it was more than just a sim bug we made sure we knew everything before issuing a ruling. I'd like to think that just over 15 minutes to go from knowing nothing to issuing a ruling isnt too terrible.
Yeah, sounds like the timeliness aspect was more on the simmers, which Er has owned up to.
(11-08-2017, 02:30 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:I'm going to assume the 'disappointed' was about my post? At no point did I say I was disappointed.
Negative. That was about Dermot's post, though that was much later on, so that's on me for saying it was right after.
(11-08-2017, 02:30 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:I saw tons of posts saying the HO doesn't care about the NSFL and that we never help out and we do nothing. So I BEGGED for you guys to contact us more reliably than just a tag in a long and fast moving chat. At the end of the day, the HO wants you guys to be happy and we need your input. I even said if you PM me on discord I promised I would get back to you as soon as I could. Then Ballerstorm hopped on to reiterate what he's said multiple times: The discord is not an official part of the forums. It is a bit unreasonable to ask us to read through every discord chatroom at all times. When you PM us on the forums you guarantee we see it.
That brings us to your asking about a rule from hawk. You PMd him, and only him, on a Friday, and he responded on a Monday. Here's where the speculation comes in. Hawk may have been busy or out of town and unable to get back to you. In any case you could have PMd any of the 4 other HO members either at the same time, or after not having heard for a longer amount of time than you expected.
I didn't PM Hawk. I tagged him in an announcement here. He may have been busy, but he wasn't too busy for seven other posts starting on the 4th, none of which were HO-related. Also, given that it was a PUBLIC post in a rules announcement that had been dormant a while, did not ONE member of the HO see a new post there and decide to check it out?
(11-08-2017, 02:30 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:Finally, on your question. It had already been figured out. From what I understand it was a misinterpretation on your part that had been addressed in the OL announcement. It didn't take 3 days to debate. Hawk posted on the 6th and got an almost immediate response from ballerstorm, which I'm assuming he relayed to you, though I can't be sure.
This paragraph is very confusing. If it had already been figured out, why did he have to ask Ballerstorm?
(11-08-2017, 02:30 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:I'll say one more thing just to blow everyone's nips off. If you don't know, because of the (in my opinion, ridiculous) accusations of Er rigging the sim. I watch EVERY NSFL sim before you see it.
So, every NSFL game gets watched by HO before it is streamed, but DSFL games are not watched before OR during streaming. And this wasn't a one night fluke. HO is NEVER present in these games (though attendance in general is improving). I think this is a big factor in the "HO doesn't care about DSFL" perception.
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