An Apology - Response

[slothfacekilla]

Oh, well EXCUSE ME for not taking that at face value considering it is, in fact, possible

Just you wait until the solstice buddy!

[gucci]

1. What DD did is really shitty. No argument from me on that. Seems like a blatant violation of the Golden rule.

2. What Bex said was pretty shitty, I’d imagine she’s said more about others that DD didn’t seem important enough to snitch on. This primarily concerns me because of the attack she led on Boomcheck after calling her out for poor conduct in her free agency.

3. That free agency now appears to have been plotted with a GM and other NOLA players in secret. A clear violation of the rules. Which DD acted as a whistleblower on. Call it what you want, but I don’t believe that whistleblowers are a bad thing. This one just happened to act in bad faith with their motivation. Doesn’t make Bex a victim.

4. I don’t believe that this is conduct befitting the commissioner position.

5. Everyone in here downplaying what looks to me like cheating now has my personal suspicions. Not that that means anything. Disappointed that I’ve been finding that the members of this league are as a whole, much more morally flexible than I previously believed. The whole attitude of it being PMs so unrelated is BS. Breaking rules is breaking rules whether in public or private.

6. The lack of transparency in this process feels corrupt, I hope it isn’t and we see justice for the parties involved.

7. Be better people, it’s fake football. You shouldn’t hate anyone here and you definitely don’t need to be cheating.

8. Note: I acknowledge that DD shouldn’t be trusted and that there should be an investigation as he may have presented the conversations out of context to put Bex in a bad situation. Should this be the case, I hope to see Bex completely vindicated.




PS for some reason calling herself Queen Bex felt less tongue and cheek for me than the Dwyer High Overlord title. This kinda confirmed that for me. Just one man’s opinion though.

[Raven]

1. What DD did is really shitty. No argument with me from that. Seems like a blatant violation of the Golden rule.

2. What Bex said was pretty shitty, I’d imagine she’s said more about others that DD didn’t seem important enough to snitch on. This primarily concerns me because of the attack she led on Boomcheck after calling her out for poor conduct in her free agency.

3. That free agency now appears to have been plotted with a GM and other NOLA players in secret. A clear violation of the rules. Which DD acted as a whistleblower on. Call it what you want, but I don’t believe that whistleblowers are a bad thing. This one just happened to act in bad faith with their motivation. Doesn’t make Bex a victim.

4. I don’t believe that this is conduct befitting the commissioner position.

5. Everyone in here downplaying what looks to me like cheating now has my personal suspicions. Not that that means anything. Disappointed that I’ve been finding that the members of this league are as a whole, much more morally flexible than I previously believed. The whole attitude of it being PMs so unrelated is BS. Breaking rules is breaking rules whether in public or private.

6. The lack of transparency in this process feels corrupt, I hope it isn’t and we see justice for the parties involved.

7. Be better people, it’s fake football. You shouldn’t hate anyone here and you definitely don’t need to be cheating.

8. Note: I acknowledge that DD shouldn’t be trusted and that there should be an investigation as he may have presented the conversations out of context to put Bex in a bad situation. Should this be the case, I hope to see Bex completely vindicated.

1-2. You can't for a second make me believe that people arent dicks about other people in private. Fuckin everyone does this shit. Differnce here is that the boom situation was in public (mind you I didnt find it that much of an attack myself) and Bex's was in private dms which if not leaked, no one would know about. Shitty? Sure. Absolutely desvestating? Fuck no.

3+5, I dont think anyone is downplaying that area. We are mostly jsut talking about the 'rude things said about others' here.

6. What the 18 hours this has been going on for? I`m not expecting an hourly news report of how HO is handling this.

7. Even if it's fake football. We are all differnt people which differnt believes and people are going to rub each other the wrong way, but yeah cheating is def a no no.

[TeyonSchavari]

2. What Bex said was pretty shitty, I’d imagine she’s said more about others that DD didn’t seem important enough to snitch on. This primarily concerns me because of the attack she led on Boomcheck after calling her out for poor conduct in her free agency.

5. Everyone in here downplaying what looks to me like cheating now has my personal suspicions. Not that that means anything. Disappointed that I’ve been finding that the members of this league are as a whole, much more morally flexible than I previously believed. The whole attitude of it being PMs so unrelated is BS. Breaking rules is breaking rules whether in public or private.

6. The lack of transparency in this process feels corrupt, I hope it isn’t and we see justice for the parties involved.

Just a few things I want to address publically regarding these few points:

- I won't argue that the comments were mean spirited, although out of context I don't think we can judge those words at face value. As for the Boomcheck situation, I feel it is unfair to say that she led the charge on that one, as most of it was her friends sticking up for her. I'll concede that the reactions may have went further than they should have though.

- The cheating is not the matter being downplayed. It doesn't matter that they were PM's or not, cheating is cheating. We may be getting confused here, defending the comments about others being said to friends privately is not defending any cheating that happened privately. We take any allegations of cheating seriously.

- I've been trying to be as transparent as possible in discord, but I understand that moves fast and may have been missed so I'll let you know what is going on here. We are currently investigating the situation where members of NOLA have been accused of tampering Bex. The team investigating this issue includes members of HO and the site owner, apart from Bex and those with ties to NOLA. Please note that Bex is the subject of tampering, not the one facilitating the tampering, according to the accusations.

At this time, that is all we have for you right now. It has been my goal since becoming HO to be as transparent as possible, so I'm doing my best. However, we won't be putting up an official announcement until we have all of the information. You may PM me any questions you have. Thank you.

[JKortesi81]

Most people seem to be saying similar things to what I was coming here to say. This is a sim league. As a result of a sim league with a great community, relationships form. Strong friendships, pretty much family in a way.

I love my best friends IRL and my family to the ends of the Earth. That doesn't mean that i don't get pissed off at them and say that I want them to drink a Clorox Margarita from time to time.

Everyone gets mad/frustrated at people they spend tons of time with and a sim league is no different in that aspect. Needing to vent about others to other people is a thing just about everyone has done. This isn't some surprise. I've talked lots of smack about people when they're being morons about something. Mostly its about @AdamS for me, but i tell him about it anyway haha.

Seriously, the league is fine, @bex doesn't need to step down, and we're all going to be more mad about the sim results in a few hours than anything else.


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[nunccoepi]

Thanks yall for keeping this civil for the most part. Clearly we're capable of it as a league.

My intention with this post was mostly to try and defuse a situation which could have (might have) spiraled out of amok pretty fast. And also to try and give Bex a chance at keeping her sanity by offering a genuine compliment. I didn't mean to drag out a situation which would have met a natural death otherwise.

Clearly I think we can all get on board with justice being served for rules being broken, whether its for tampering, being a dick, or anything else that might come up.

Thanks yall, you're the best. And for what its worth I agree with the vast majority of what's been posted here including what @Jiggly_333 said, launching someone into the sun being considered a real if unlikely threat, and mixed feelings about kolbe recreating (jk).

[slothfacekilla]

Y'all are really going to make me fire someone into the sun just to prove a point.

[woelkers]

Y'all are really going to make me fire someone into the sun just to prove a point.

I volunteer as tribute.

[Baron1898]

Y'all are really going to make me fire someone into the sun just to prove a point.

Go ahead and fire the whole league into the sun if we have to witness another Otters Ultimini this year

[slothfacekilla]

Go ahead and fire the whole league into the sun if we have to witness another Otters Ultimini this year