* Pro Bowl Predictions

iamslm22 · 08-26-2017, 06:28 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:18 PM)To12143 Wrote:I was waiting for someone to bring this up, hence why I posted half of my work. If you would have been closer in pancakes I would have put you in, but you were not. Hendrix also had the misfortune of working with a horrible offensive line, so that plays a factor as well. As for Kyubee he had less yards and for 1 more td he had 5 more interceptions. Add in the Gibson factor and Kyubee may have less TDs and more interceptions.

I mean a bad offensive line has nothing to do with the performance of individuals. Hendrix didn't allow sacks because of the poor work of his teammates. The Baltimore O-Line had two inactives all year.

Also the "Gibson factor" is BS. Philly had a better Tight End all year! People are acting like Gibson was super jacked up, and that's not the case at all. If he was an active Tight End all year he would've been better than he was with his additional TPE.

RainDelay · (This post was last modified: 08-26-2017, 06:32 PM by RainDelay.)

(08-26-2017, 06:19 PM)To12143 Wrote:You changed conference middle of the year, like cook that is factored in. Had you stayed in the ASFC you would probably make the pro bowl, but the split in stats is why you don't make it.

Who cares about the split? Stats are stats.

If Giancarlo Stanton had a 50 home run season, but was traded to an AL team mid season, why the fuck shouldn't he make the All-Star Team for whatever league he's in?

If anything, changing to the NSFC and still keeping pace should only further my case, as that is the more competitive league.

Deusolis · 08-26-2017, 06:31 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:22 PM)To12143 Wrote:I worked as if they were split, although it doesn't make note of it in the index. The index only notes the team, and doesn't create separate entries if the team changes during the season, which would help in predicting things like this.

Extrapolated out for 14 games:
Wraiths: 98 TKLs, 8.4 TFLs, 16 SCKs, 3 PDs, 3 INTs, 3 TDs
SaberCats: 123 TKLs, 0 TFLs, 1.5 SCKs, 11 PDs, 1.5 INTs

Oles · 08-26-2017, 06:32 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:29 PM)RainDelay Wrote:Who cares about the split? Stats are stats.

If Giancarlo Stanton had a 50 home run season, but was traded to an AL team mid season, why the fuck shouldn't he make the All-Star Team for whatever league he's in?

All star game is before the trade deadline so that likely wouldn't happen. This is a conference based pro bowl team. If half of your stats are from the ASFC why would it make sense that they count for an NSFC award or pro bowl spot?

RainDelay · 08-26-2017, 06:34 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:32 PM)To12143 Wrote:All star game is before the trade deadline so that likely wouldn't happen. This is a conference based pro bowl team. If half of your stats are from the ASFC why would it make sense that they count for an NSFC award or pro bowl spot?

Uh...because the NSFL is the NSFL. I didn't put up those stats in the minor leagues or anything.

That's just how things work.

Also, to the bolded point, yes it's before the trade deadline. So players can get traded. Just because I used the best hitter in baseball as an example doesn't mean it's unlikely.

Oles · 08-26-2017, 06:36 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:28 PM)iamslm22 Wrote:I mean a bad offensive line has nothing to do with the performance of individuals. Hendrix didn't allow sacks because of the poor work of his teammates. The Baltimore O-Line had two inactives all year.

Also the "Gibson factor" is BS. Philly had a better Tight End all year! People are acting like Gibson was super jacked up, and that's not the case at all. If he was an active Tight End all year he would've been better than he was with his additional TPE.

It's clear Gibson provided some help, if y'all had a 50 TPE TE(like he should have been) his stats would have been insanely different. It's a matter of him being inactive and having extra TPE when he shouldn't have had the TPE. As for the O-Line Liberty had 1 active and 1 semi active, not much in terms of activity. I get you think you should be in but you just didn't have enough in terms of stats to warrant a placement in the prediction, and that's just it, this is a prediction.

Oles · 08-26-2017, 06:38 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:34 PM)RainDelay Wrote:Uh...because the NSFL is the NSFL. I didn't put up those stats in the minor leagues or anything.

That's just how things work.

Also, to the bolded point, yes it's before the trade deadline. So players can get traded. Just because I used the best hitter in baseball as an example doesn't mean it's unlikely.

I just stated about your hypothetical, typically players don't get traded until 2 weeks before the trade deadline in the MLB. There really isn't any trading 2 months into the season, especially not for superstars like Stanton. And you're right, you didn't put those stats up in the minor leagues, but you did them in different conferences, I get you think you and your buddy should have made it, but as I've stated these are predictions, not the actual teams.

RainDelay · 08-26-2017, 06:42 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:38 PM)To12143 Wrote:I just stated about your hypothetical, typically players don't get traded until 2 weeks before the trade deadline in the MLB. There really isn't any trading 2 months into the season, especially not for superstars like Stanton. And you're right, you didn't put those stats up in the minor leagues, but you did them in different conferences, I get you think you and your buddy should have made it but as I've stated these are predictions, not the actual teams.

Nah this is a me thing.

And my point with the hypothetical was only to state that it shouldn't matter in what conference/division one puts up crazy numbers in when it comes to the scheme of the league as a whole.

I know these are predictions so I guess all I can hope for is that when voting rolls around people don't have these outlandish conceptualizations of how all star teams work.

Oles · 08-26-2017, 06:53 PM

(08-26-2017, 06:42 PM)RainDelay Wrote:Nah this is a me thing.

And my point with the hypothetical was only to state that it shouldn't matter in what conference/division one puts up crazy numbers in when it comes to the scheme of the league as a whole.

I know these are predictions so I guess all I can hope for is that when voting rolls around people don't have these outlandish conceptualizations of how all star teams work.

If Stanton moved conferences halfway to the all star break it would depend on his stats. Now with the all star break being so close the the start of the season it is likely he could put up the same numbers. If someone in the NFL(Say Matt Stafford), is traded halfway through the year, I would say he should not make the pro bowl. It's just my view on it, and I mean your numbers aren't ahead of Cooper's numbers enough to warrant you over him.

jparks98 · 08-26-2017, 06:59 PM

uhh I think I'm going to just say thanks and leave :spidey: