(08-14-2017, 01:00 PM)Sweetwater Wrote:I am aware, I may have just misspoken. There is a problem with TE's in the sim itself. It doesn't use them the way they are actually used in the nfl.
FWIW, lining up in the slot or wideout does not take away your position. RBs line up out wide all the time, but I wouldn't call Leveon Bell or David Johnson "basically receivers". The difference is that receivers line up as receivers 99% of the time, but TEs don't. That's what's so unique about the position.
But not the same max height, which is the other half of the "smaller" issue.
I'm not saying that TEs should have monster stats, but I don't think they should be having full seasons as a primary receiver that are worse than the average seasons of NFL TEs. Obviously this is something incorrect with the sim, not necessarily with the archetypes.
Listen, I don't really care if anything I've suggested actually gets implemented. But the TE position has become one of the most dynamic roles in the modern NFL, and I hate to see it just cast aside so casually. There was a reason OJ Howard, Even Engram, and David Njoku were taken in the first round, and Red Zone threat WRs weren't really taken until the 3rd. Teams want big, tall guys who can run fast and catch well, and those are TEs.
I guess I'm just not understanding why everyone seems to be so against this.
I think the reason I would say I'm against it is it's a bit of a slippery slope for archetype changes. If we give tight ends more speed because of realism, then are defensive ends going to want more speed too? Myles Garrett is super fast. I guess, based on what we're seeing with the sim and tight ends, what does it do for us by raising the speed cap?
In terms of the tight ends you listed all three of those guys would fit the physical build of the red zone threat wide receiver in the sim. The only NFL player I think you could argue you couldn't build in the sim physically is Jimmy Graham, his speed and size isn't really available to you. Gronk isn't insanely fast and I think he fits into the regular tight end archetypes we have.
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