*Too far or not far enough?

[Kendrick]

Yea but there are now young QBs with something to gun for, they were rebuilding anyway, and if you have a strong ground game you can minimize the effectiveness of your QB. I think FAs would go there to help them win

A strong ground game is one component of the game though. For us pass catchers it makes being there even worse haha. See the trickle down effect there?

If you say the ground game minimizes the need for a great QB, that means its not a hot destination for WR's.

[manicmav36]

If you say the ground game minimizes the need for a great QB, that means its not a hot destination for WR's.

Seems like you're mad because it will have a negative effect on you, not necessarily the team. What would be your suggestion for an alternative?

[Bzerkap]

A strong ground game is one component of the game though. For us pass catchers it makes being there even worse haha. See the trickle down effect there?

If you say the ground game minimizes the need for a great QB, that means its not a hot destination for WR's.

That's true I guess but what can we do about it in the future? We have o punish the illegally gained points

[Kendrick]

That's true I guess but what can we do about it in the future? We have o punish the illegally gained points

I think you can by hitting the player with a punishment like "Decrease the excess TPE earned through cheating and halfing that TPE total. So in this case it would bump him down to 205 TPE. A 205 TPE QB is better than what the Yeti have now as a QB. Then giving him a 2 week ban, a lifetime ban on league jobs and making him have to earn his way back up to TPE total like everyone else. You teach a young guy a lesson like that and he either understands it or he doesn't and just goes inactive.

During my time in sim leagues if you throw the book at someone you lose a member (who you can argue might be important or not) but you also lose teammates motivation to do anything given the team is now handicapped. If the teammates knew about the situation and were just hiding it for him they would be directly at fault as well, but given his position in the league and the Admin CP control he had; he did it behind closed doors.

I agree a guy like him needs to be made an example of but in the future I think punishing the team does more harm then originally intended when dealing with said members shady maneuvers. Yes I wish he hadn't broken the trust of anyone in power and all the members in this league, but I wish the punishment didn't directly hurt the members below him who in this situation are completely innocent. Kick his QB back a bit, make him earn his way back in the Bank by stripping his earnings.

[manicmav36]

This seems like a fair response for a first time offender. Unfortunately, he's known around other leagues for doing things like this. While it will definitely hurt the Yeti, hopefully knowing they won't just be hurting themselves, but their team as well, will be a better deterrent? Just my thoughts.

[Bzerkap]

I think you can by hitting the player with a punishment like "Decrease the excess TPE earned through cheating and halfing that TPE total. So in this case it would bump him down to 205 TPE. A 205 TPE QB is better than what the Yeti have now as a QB. Then giving him a 2 week ban, a lifetime ban on league jobs and making him have to earn his way back up to TPE total like everyone else. You teach a young guy a lesson like that and he either understands it or he doesn't and just goes inactive.

During my time in sim leagues if you throw the book at someone you lose a member (who you can argue might be important or not) but you also lose teammates motivation to do anything given the team is now handicapped. If the teammates knew about the situation and were just hiding it for him they would be directly at fault as well, but given his position in the league and the Admin CP control he had; he did it behind closed doors.

I agree a guy like him needs to be made an example of but in the future I think punishing the team does more harm then originally intended when dealing with said members shady maneuvers. Yes I wish he hadn't broken the trust of anyone in power and all the members in this league, but I wish the punishment didn't directly hurt the members below him who in this situation are completely innocent. Kick his QB back a bit, make him earn his way back in the Bank by stripping his earnings.

I get this argument. It's a really good one

[kckolbe]

During my time in sim leagues if you throw the book at someone you lose a member (who you can argue might be important or not) but you also lose teammates motivation to do anything given the team is now handicapped. If the teammates knew about the situation and were just hiding it for him they would be directly at fault as well, but given his position in the league and the Admin CP control he had; he did it behind closed doors.

New HO candidate. Keep an eye on this one.

[bluesfan55]

Just curious, what did he do in the SHL? This is my first sim league so I'm not familiar with the history of other ones

I don't know and I'm an SHL member.

[RavensFanFromOntario]

This takes my suggestion a bit out of context, though, as I wanted the PLAYER punished more harshly.

@RavensFanFromOntario, I know what you are referring to, but the TPE cost per upgrade outweighs the impact increase.

Regardless, one was intentional where one wasn't.

[BOOM™]

Shit, I didn't know he was Quinn.