Kyamprac Player Progression Head Removal

[CLG Rampage]

In conclusion, I just want to be the first to officially announce my vote of no confidence in the current regime that occupies HO. Changes are needed and it is my hope that we don’t lose anymore users that love this league for the sake of the power that some wish so desperately to hold on to.

Count me in

Fuck it, count me in too. HO needs to be reigned in, seriously. They have no interaction with the league beyond carefully curated newsletters, punishments and the rules thread. I don't care what you do behind the scenes, you are going to strangle this league to death on it's current path.

[BenDover]

Guacamole

[Bigred1580]

  I feel like I would also bring this up with the team and we would discuss it together.  I kinda think the entire audit is bogus because you can't look at S16 and know what the league was like or the reasons for the decisions that were made.  What if a user had sent me a DM saying they would be late, and I gave credit, an audit wouldn't show that. 

 You mean possibly decisions such as this that didn't show up in the audit...
apparently this didnt go through last night because my internet sucks, if no credit, I understand.

Exactly

[Fordhammer]

In conclusion, I just want to be the first to officially announce my vote of no confidence in the current regime that occupies HO. Changes are needed and it is my hope that we don’t lose anymore users that love this league for the sake of the power that some wish so desperately to hold on to.

Count me in

Fuck it, count me in too. HO needs to be reigned in, seriously. They have no interaction with the league beyond carefully curated newsletters, punishments and the rules thread. I don't care what you do behind the scenes, you are going to strangle this league to death on it's current path.

C'mon now, this isn't fair. We had a funny joke in the last rule summit voting post!

[Buttersqauch101]

Man Kya really out here getting witch hunted for giving herself enough tpe to get her strength from 51 to 52

[Beaver]

Alright so, this post is only the beginning of addressing some of the things that have came up because there is 20 pages of this and I'm not gonna go through and quote everyone when I think everyone would be very interested in  hearing some more insight/perspective from an inactive shitposter. State it first that can always DM me about this and ima try my best to answer concerns just bare with me please.

I think the easiest thing to start off with is separating this into two different sections, 1 regarding the bet and 1 regarding the plunger.

Firstly the easiest one i think to digest for people, the bet. Objectively, people were excited throughout the seasons thinking @bovovovo plunging his bumhole was a possibility. The promise is stated on public discord and most of the league saw it (Not gonna say all because i haven't checked myself but it more than likely is). This left us in a position where either
a) the Yeti went winless 2 seasons in a row and bovo plunges his bumhole
b) the Yeti win a game and bovo does not plunge his bumhole
c) the Yeti went winless 2 seasons in a row and bovo does not plunge his bumhole

C is a point I think some people haven't thought of. This entirely investigation started with one conversation in management server with a user complaining about not seeing the plunging whilst being promised it. I was the first one on this and investigated just the last seasons game results (I think this occurred around Ultimus week, not too sure). If we investigated this and then did not get bovo plunge his bumhole, the people who were denied would rightfully be annoyed. From personal perspective, as soon as i brought this up to HO as a bigger issue to look into after that one conversation, I was always for and would have pushed the removal of bovo from the league as it both makes it fair to those who were denied and follows the deadlines that are set in place.

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Now the bigger part i know most of yous have a problem with, The plunger.

I think it goes without saying that this was not a quick and simple process to plunge your bumhole. The data that was collected on Yeti win totals and best practices for plunging one's self was clear that as a supremely fucked up group of individuals, and our time on the internet, there was a substantially large increase in the desire to see bovo use a plunger on himself. (Note that of course, these two traits play off each other so its pretty easy to be both). Going back to the beginning, when the complaint was made in management server and whilst I was investigating it, bovo came online (I think he was tagged) and stated that he would not be posting a video of him plunging his own bumhole. This is where I instantly brought it to HO, as for me, this was a general manager, being untruthful and dishonest, saying that they have not followed the rules in place.

I don't think what i will say in terms of the firing will make many people change their mind, but the vote saw the option or Probation, Firing or no action, even talk of relieving him of discord access and making him a second-class member of the league.  At the end of the vote, as apparent, the majority vote (including both ISFL and DSFL HO) was fire. This investigation spanned somewhere in the range of 2-4 weeks and there was always back and forth on it and the outcome. What has to be understood is that the data of 12 seasons had bovo has 1) The worst renege of a bet 2) The worst performing plunger. 3)Openly admitting they had done it. There will always be conjecture on whether he ever intended to follow through, especially when it comes to him plunging his own and colleague's bumholes, but the facts that the investigation turned up, for HO and at least i can say myself, these numbers and results were a large reason for him being fire as it was no mistake that this bet was reneged upon

[ddrector]

I am curious as to how many of the late submissions that are being counted are Predictions submissions taking place between 7:45 and 8:00. As a grader I always let those slide as they still got their submission in before the games started. I would even sometimes be lenient and let a few minutes past 8 be ok since I knew they still wouldn't have any info to go off of at that point. This league is supposed to be a thing we do for fun where we meet new friends and have a good time. Punishing players for submitting a few minutes late is not at all within the spirit of the league, especially when it is being done retroactively.

[tMuse]

I am curious as to how many of the late submissions that are being counted are Predictions submissions taking place between 7:45 and 8:00. As a grader I always let those slide as they still got their submission in before the games started. I would even sometimes be lenient and let a few minutes past 8 be ok since I knew they still wouldn't have any info to go off of at that point. This league is supposed to be a thing we do for fun where we meet new friends and have a good time. Punishing players for submitting a few minutes late is not at all within the spirit of the league, especially when it is being done retroactively.

lmao enjoy being removed from your job

[Buttersqauch101]

In conclusion, I just want to be the first to officially announce my vote of no confidence in the current regime that occupies HO. Changes are needed and it is my hope that we don’t lose anymore users that love this league for the sake of the power that some wish so desperately to hold on to.

Count me in

Fuck it, count me in too. HO needs to be reigned in, seriously. They have no interaction with the league beyond carefully curated newsletters, punishments and the rules thread. I don't care what you do behind the scenes, you are going to strangle this league to death on it's current path.

I'm completely onboard with this. Everyone shouldn't have to question leadership for every little decision. I think there needs to be change done to HO and major ones at that

[wuma]

I would also like to add my thoughts as a fairly new user.

First off, thanks to Darkness for trying to explain all this to us.

Secondly, I did want to mention that while the mindset of wrong is wrong, is correct. But as someone else mentioned, lumping all wrong together into the same amount/level of wrong is just silly. I get that rules are made for a reason. But in no world should you be saying intent doesn't matter at all. Accidents happen. So by the logic mentioned, making 25 multis is the same as granting someone some late TPE? Murder and speeding are also the same? Either way, the rules were broken, so let's just punish all wrong doing the same to make this easier for everyone. How many people currently on the HO haven't made any mistakes in this league so far? How was your mistake handled?

But I can say, stuff like does not make me want to recreate when it is time. If I was a newer player, I am not sure I would continue playing. This just reeks of people in power who don't think the masses need to know why they make the decisions they make, but we should definitely blindly follow them. (obviously not all of the HO members). Then you have some inflammatory comments from HO related people that doesn't help the look either. It really isn't a good look for a free to play fun game that some of us like to play to give our brains some relaxation time. Then we get stuff like this ruining all that.

I felt that way so many times after reading some threads where HO does some questionable stuff.
A huge problem is that we "older" users get used to it i guess? I can completely understand if a new user doesn't want to really get into it after reading threads like this.

As a user who just recreated, I can say this is really off-putting. It kind of made me regret recreating, and I'm not sure I'll stick around after this season.